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what is happening ladies and gentlemen

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welcome to the garage welcome to another

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night of taking a trip in old blue into

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the cosmos and beyond and as always

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we're super prepared and at least one of

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the computers this is why you always

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have two at least one of them is crashed

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so you guys will bear through or bear

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with me as we go through the

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introduction here and a few things i

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want to update you guys on that we're

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super excited about and even if i don't

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get right off the bat well at least it's

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going to come up over the next couple

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weeks i promise uh right off the bat i

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want to give a big shout out to

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ghostdragonzw

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thank you very much who's always

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checking on the evil fey or possible uh

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gremlins of any sort that are of

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mischief he gets the gold position

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tonight and actually i think trippy

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times josh or josh he had first position

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first comment i've seen on youtube so to

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be fair we get to be

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we gotta give him the gold silver two

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two dragon zw wes h is here as well and

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i saw brown dot flop was in there and

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for some reason am i gonna get rid of

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those comments or the uh the comments on

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there so those are our top four

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positions so thank you for being here

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susan places good evening everyone thank

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you susan for being here tonight vera

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excuse me vera rae is here as well

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there's brown top or excuse me brown dot

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flop thank you once again for hanging

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out with us

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uh so i just wanna let you guys know

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once again the one the kind of the

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biggest thing that we've changed up here

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just a little bit

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is that we are still accepting if

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anybody wants to do super chats that is

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super awesome and amazing we love them

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we won't tell you don't send them

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but they take a lot uh in the youtube

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aspect of it so we've put in our links

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the different other ways you can support

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the show

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that maybe would give you more of what

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you're donating will come to us versus

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the other options

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uh speaking of that let me pull up what

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ben sent me once again because we have a

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donation we're going to do every couple

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of months we're going to pick a new

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organization within the community to

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donate money to and help put back money

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i think 20 is what we're doing back into

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the community as a whole wherever we can

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yeah right here every quarter we will

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choose a group to donate 20 of our

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earnings to help those in need

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of extra support this quarter we choose

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anomaly archives let's help and not only

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archives find a new home if you'd like

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to donate directly to them here's that

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link and i will post that for you guys

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in just a couple minutes and

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periodically throughout the night so

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just know that that is where your

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money's going obviously yes we use it

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here

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to kind of help the show keep going keep

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things moving along

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but it is not solely just for us we want

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to help the community as a whole

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speaking of the community as a whole

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guys i am super excited about this i

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probably should have this all prepared

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i want to share with you what ben and

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joe been doing this way and this has

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been a long time coming and for if

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you're listening on the audio aspect

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it would urgently vehemently beg you to

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at least take a peek

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at the at the video aspect of what we've

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got going on here i'm going to share my

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screen

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uh they have a garage reunion going on

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guys uh the ufo garage family reunion in

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2022 it'll be november 4th through the

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6th it'll be friday night through sunday

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night our sunday afternoon it will be in

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texas and it's going to be a great time

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i have a link to that already in the

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show notes so if you'd like to check

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that out and more we can discuss that in

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more in depth over the next couple weeks

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we just want to start kind of planning

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this out let everybody know we're super

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excited about this they've got tiny

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houses they've got like tp tents they've

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got all kinds of amazing stuff that way

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that i don't know if they have any

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pictures here or not let me see

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that are planned out that way and it is

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mystic quarry is where the place is at

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that's the name of it

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but i'm mainly excited about the tp

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tents that are really like the way

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they're set up they have like wide open

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so you can see the stars at night but it

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keeps the rain out which is you know fun

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because as much as i like just gazing up

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in the night sky staying warm staying

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dry is also nice but enough about all

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that let's get back to the show here why

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we're here for you this evening which is

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bree better known as thin lizzie borden

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within the community as well as mr scary

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gary thank you both for being my guest

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here tonight let me actually you know

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what let me bring him in here guys how's

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it going this evening how are we doing

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good how are you

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good how's everybody going

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i'm doing good looks like everybody in

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the chat is having a good time i haven't

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checked back over here yet in a little

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bit so

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uh simon well said i would like to say

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willie is stealing my look but he does

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it better off simon you're way too kind

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that's my brother from down under guys

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let's see we got sweetly morbid bear

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says mr willie and soul siblings

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listening on road love you will you

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drive safe be safe out there

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and yeah i'm i'm very glad that oh look

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at spooky says this is a lot of beard

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can you ever have too much beard i mean

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i don't know i don't think that's the

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thing i would think so they each their

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own some would argue that that you that

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is the case you can have too much

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oh simon wells he says three of the most

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beautiful people i've ever seen simon

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you're too kind brother thank you thank

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you um

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let's see all madrid ask you thank you

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for being here and anyone else i might

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have missed while i was sharing some of

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my guys thank you for being in here

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tonight stewart as well says hey guys

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watching what's shaking

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thank you for being here

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so uh let me get that out of the way i

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don't have pulled up right initially in

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front of me who the next guess is for

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ben and joe but obviously guys you can

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catch them every tuesday with their

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topless two topic

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hang on that's like two topic topless

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tuesday yeah right

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something like that

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please feel free to check them out as

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well as now brie the newest edition over

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at the after hours you can catch myself

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the gorgeous gemma jade the fedora

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wearing john hudson and then lizzie

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borden on the after hours as we hang out

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sharing tomorrow evening we'll be there

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as a matter of fact 11 p.m eastern is

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our start time what is that your guys 9

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p.m mountain time is that right yes and

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okay maybe see now that sounded normal

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msd there's too many all i know is i

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reside in this eastern time zone that i

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happen to fall in and that's what i rock

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with so i know i i didn't think you were

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east technically the east coast but i'm

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close we learned something new

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there's two parts in michigan we have we

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it's over on it's in the part of the

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upper peninsula that stretches over

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towards wisconsin that falls into a

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different time zone it's not really part

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of like i'm on the lower part of

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michigan and the mittens so it's not

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let's start there and obviously we're

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going to go a variety of places tonight

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as we we engage in this conversation

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wherever we might end up who knows as

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you guys know we hop in old blue we go

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explore the galaxy and the cosmos

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perhaps you're listening to this and we

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just are live right now and you're with

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us or you're listening and it is so many

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years in the future perhaps you are our

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great great great grandchildren i have

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no clue either way we welcome you and

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hope that you enjoy the conversation

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this evening as we uh discuss kind of

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i guess so you could say your guys's

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to go but you guys did have a little bit

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of history near the minnesota wisconsin

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area both of you right yep

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now prior to even meeting you guys both

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had independently history in these areas

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yep yeah

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i got you okay well i guess starting

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with you then bri where were you kind of

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i mean you don't have to go like you

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know in the beginning where were you

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born but like roughly give or take is

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that is that where you were born or

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the minnesotan one born and raised and

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he's the california

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one born and raised so it's

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kind of vice versa what you would think

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that i would be from where he's at

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and vice versa so

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yeah when did you move to minnesota

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i was like 13 14. so it was like 93 94.

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that had been a little bit of a culture

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shock right going from i mean just the

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weather alone right that had to benefit

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yeah the first winter was definitely

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interesting they had a huge blizzard

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right at halloween

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oh and it just buried everything and we

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definitely changes up uh like i couldn't

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imagine like as much as i do give the

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guys and you know obviously joe and ben

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graciously who allow me to even do the

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show with them over here at the garage

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as much crap as i give them when taxes

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about when they get snow

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i don't think i could do the heat i

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really don't i don't think i could do

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that texas heat sometimes not my thing

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not built for it it's way too

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yeah yeah

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that's exactly it is that if especially

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michigan you get human the summer time

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just like minnesota does and i grew up

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in the mojave desert where it was 120

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degrees but it was super dry

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and so it didn't feel nearly as hot as

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it did when we moved to minnesota it was

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like 90 and 100 humidity

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oh my gosh

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let's start there actually that's a

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great starting point because obviously

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we had mr ron fell brown not that many

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episodes ago two episodes back there um

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which is a great time thank you ron for

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coming on hanging out with us but

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interestingly enough obviously we dealt

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with the mojave desert incident and you

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growing up in this area had you even

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heard of that story or have

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did you see anything else yourself while

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you were there have any experiences

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we had

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a lots of weird things happen i guess is

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the best way to say it

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you know it was we were

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gosh i think we were 30 miles south of

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edwards air force base

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and then we had george air force base

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which is now closed and completely

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abandoned

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now but that was like a mile away from

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our house so

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we lived in a very weird area

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do you think uh

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do you think that there's i mean okay

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there's two parts this people always say

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that they disregard anything being in

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the sky the you know ufo the classic

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statement as it were before uap arrived

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but

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being around the airports they're like

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well you guys are that's the reason why

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guys this is clustered around the

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airports

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if you're really digging it a little

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more i mean that's really just that

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that's been what's been reported you

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know it doesn't mean that every one of

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those turned out to be that but i know a

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lot of people skirt them off they always

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go well look you guys seen all these

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supposed you know crafts or whatever

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might have happened near airports it's

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just because you can't see it's

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airplanes but i don't know that that's

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completely the case from like what you

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said yeah you were 30 miles out but

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i do remember uh briefly when we

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discussed the mojave desert incident

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you guys said and correct me if i'm

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wrong i believe you said you might have

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seen

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the uh was it the black but not the

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blackbird the uh the b2 and the f-117

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because it was the b2 was years before

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we saw the f-117

341
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and yeah they

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we're out because my dad used to work

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for the cdf the california department of

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forestry

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and he was a firefighter so he would do

346
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all the forest fires and stuff and so

347
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they would give him special permission

348
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to go in and cut down wood and stuff

349
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like that and then he'd sell it

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and we used to cut down the stuff called

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ironwood which is like from the mesquite

352
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branch i guess it's closest relative is

353
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the mesquite and it's like this super

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dense wood

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that you'd have to sharpen your chainsaw

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after every cut almost every piece of

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wood you cut off

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but you'd throw it in your wood burning

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furnace or your wood burning stove and

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it would last all night long just one

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log it so longer just burn forever and

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hot

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and so we were out cutting that and

364
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yeah we look up one day and the

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big old b2 just goes flying by with two

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f5 or f1 the f-15s flying alongside his

367
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escorts and

368
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what the hell was that you know you

369
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don't know what it is because never seen

370
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anything triangle shaped like well

371
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what year would this be

372
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oh this was like i was like seven or

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eight so it was probably eighty seven

374
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eighty eight sometimes a long time ago

375
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dang it

376
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was born

377
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before you were born is what you said

378
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yeah i was born in 88.

379
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it's a good year though that's a good

380
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year

381
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but so that one could almost stay and i

382
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i don't uh

383
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ben would know ben's in the chat tonight

384
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ben what's shaking brother uh nobody

385
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even been before the the the legendary

386
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jim goodall came out and wrote about it

387
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right

388
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somewhere around then because i know

389
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like with the f-117 that was a little

390
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later on

391
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i'm not good with the exact years but i

392
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know we saw it and it was

393
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what the hell was that again that one's

394
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totally different

395
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and then a couple weeks later you see

396
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the gym good all pictures come out and

397
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it was oh that's what we saw

398
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so

399
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it was neat

400
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gotcha now with that being said as as a

401
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young you know child or a young man

402
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maybe i guess at the time you moved a

403
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kid at the time

404
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did your

405
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parents your family life ever hint the

406
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idea of i guess what was the family like

407
00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:02,480
as far as addressing the idea of

408
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possible extraterrestrial life forms

409
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what what was that process did your dad

410
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just say yeah it's just the airplanes or

411
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what was the deal that way yeah he was

412
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mostly just it was airplanes you know

413
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what i mean you knew it was something

414
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military because it had two fighter

415
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planes flying along next to it

416
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so it's well obviously that's coming out

417
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of georgia or edwards because

418
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that's the other thing is they would fly

419
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all the x-planes through where we lived

420
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all the time so

421
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almost weekly no x-men no x-men no x-men

422
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just

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and uh so almost every week you would

424
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have sonic booms going off left and

425
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right

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and so you'd just be in the house

427
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sitting around and then boom and the

428
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whole house would just shake like crazy

429
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and you're like well your dad's from

430
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california also so he's

431
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been around and probably have seen

432
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you know has seen stuff for a long time

433
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yeah so he's probably like used to or

434
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doesn't you know pay it any never mind

435
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yeah i mean that's kind of how it is

436
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that's act like it's how i am i guess

437
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it's just

438
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weird things happen you're like oh yeah

439
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another day going by

440
00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:07,680
yeah very true

441
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so at what age i guess or did you i

442
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guess growing up was your perception of

443
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this realm you know the idea of

444
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the strange the obscure the unknown was

445
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it peaked at all or was it just kind of

446
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a

447
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too

448
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but i'd be in the library

449
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all day long

450
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and all i would ever do was like i

451
00:15:44,550 --> 00:15:43,279
rented out every single book on ufos i

452
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could touch

453
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like i knew the whole scale

454
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you know what close encounter is the

455
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first kind is this the center oh the

456
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third the various yeah everything was

457
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that's all i did was research all the

458
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different act you know

459
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the falcon lake incident and things like

460
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that i just that's what i learned was

461
00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:02,639
that in california so when you were

462
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young no that was the one up in uh

463
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canada

464
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no when you oh yeah when i was reading

465
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the book so you were

466
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at a young age doing all this is what it

467
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was

468
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no did you

469
00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:17,440
in that did anybody close to you even a

470
00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:18,800
friend of some sort did anybody share

471
00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:19,920
that interest with you did you have

472
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someone you could kind of you know back

473
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and forth conversate about the ideas

474
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no i was kind of a loner kid

475
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it was just you just working these ideas

476
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out as to what could be going on and

477
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yeah very nice are you seeing things

478
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i got you now when you guys um prior to

479
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you making a move because obviously

480
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again we we brought you here to talk

481
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about some stuff tonight and some of the

482
00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:41,759
experiences that might have taken place

483
00:16:46,389 --> 00:16:44,480
in your life but did you

484
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i guess um let me see the right way to

485
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ask this did you what is the earliest

486
00:16:51,990 --> 00:16:50,399
recollection of an experience or

487
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something you go hmm i can't quite

488
00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:53,440
explain what that was not saying you

489
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know what it is but you just had to have

490
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the moment

491
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gosh i mean it was little

492
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five six years old probably less than

493
00:17:05,429 --> 00:17:03,519
that but yeah it was

494
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it was always that weird

495
00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:06,799
like i was a little kid that was always

496
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paranoid that i could tell things were

497
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watching me from outside the windows

498
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and like when we where i grew up so we

499
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lived

500
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in this little town

501
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and at the time it was a little town now

502
00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:19,439
it's huge but

503
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at the time it was a little earth town

504
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and we had

505
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i think one or two rows of houses behind

506
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us and then there was nothing but desert

507
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and so we were right on the edge of

508
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everything and across the street so we

509
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had a little street that kind of curved

510
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and directly across the street was a

511
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chain-link fence

512
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and then it was the california aqueduct

513
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system

514
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and so we'd go in the aqueduct and walk

515
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around and catch giant catfish because

516
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they were this part of the la river was

517
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actually full of water

518
00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:48,080
unlike what you see in like terminator

519
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we could just drive whole vehicles down

520
00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:54,400
there exactly

521
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this was the turtles there and

522
00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:57,760
everything yeah it was deep and people

523
00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:00,320
would try to tube down it and then every

524
00:18:04,470 --> 00:18:02,720
quarter mile there's grates

525
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underneath the water and so people would

526
00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:06,480
just be tubing along drunk

527
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and they would suck them under and pin

528
00:18:12,710 --> 00:18:10,720
them against the grate and kill them and

529
00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:12,720
like suck up yeah

530
00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:14,960
they would have so many signs no tubing

531
00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:17,600
no swimming but people would still do it

532
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anyways i'm assuming and that was one of

533
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the reasons my dad quit being a

534
00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:22,799
firefighter was he'd have to get called

535
00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:24,880
out for those when people would drown

536
00:18:29,669 --> 00:18:26,880
and one of the kids was like exactly my

537
00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:29,679
age oh no and he was like no i can't do

538
00:18:32,470 --> 00:18:31,600
this anymore it's too close to home yeah

539
00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:32,480
yeah

540
00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:36,640
always that little shadow creatures or

541
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shadows you said

542
00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:40,240
things that would be coming around the

543
00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:42,720
corner and disappearing a lot of that

544
00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:44,960
stuff when i was a kid and then

545
00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:47,760
like in in your house or just like yeah

546
00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:49,360
in the house

547
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like a big long hallway

548
00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:54,880
did anybody else seem to experience this

549
00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:57,600
experiencing that in your family or with

550
00:19:00,470 --> 00:18:58,799
if they were they just weren't talking

551
00:19:02,230 --> 00:19:00,480
about it if they were they weren't

552
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:02,240
talking about it i guess but not a whole

553
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lot

554
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:08,160
think of uh

555
00:19:11,669 --> 00:19:09,200
you know we

556
00:19:13,270 --> 00:19:11,679
we seem to most people agree now there's

557
00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:13,280
a general consensus that you know young

558
00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:15,200
children or animals seem to be more open

559
00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:17,280
and receptive to different frequencies

560
00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:20,080
or dimensions perhaps and i often think

561
00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:22,640
like how how difficult that must be for

562
00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:24,640
for a little child sometimes

563
00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:26,640
depending on how they handle it right

564
00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:28,080
because

565
00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:30,160
if you're genuinely concerned but no one

566
00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:31,840
believes in they just kind of

567
00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:33,360
as a parent you try to come for your

568
00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:34,960
kids so sometimes when when they come to

569
00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:36,880
you like oh there's this monster you're

570
00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:39,360
like oh that was just your imagination

571
00:19:43,430 --> 00:19:41,520
and you're almost in a sense and it's

572
00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:43,440
not necessarily it's not any really

573
00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:44,559
fault of the parent but you're almost

574
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:46,559
discrediting that poor child who's come

575
00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:48,320
forth right and then let's say a parent

576
00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:50,320
handles in a bad way that child might

577
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:53,039
ever ever speak out about it again

578
00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:55,039
depending on what happened

579
00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:56,080
um

580
00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:58,240
so you start having these experiences uh

581
00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:59,360
you know you're already kind of seeing

582
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:00,960
things at a young age

583
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:04,320
uh at what age did you have a for sure

584
00:20:09,669 --> 00:20:07,039
like this moment i would define as

585
00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:09,679
it kind of changed the course of

586
00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:11,280
my life as it were in the interest that

587
00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:15,430
gosh i mean again that was probably

588
00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:17,840
being seven eight years old something

589
00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:18,880
like that

590
00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:20,559
that was a lot when the weird dream

591
00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:22,159
started to happen

592
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,679
the reoccurring

593
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:25,520
kind of dreams that you started getting

594
00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:26,480
and

595
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,559
that was when it just kind of yeah that

596
00:20:32,149 --> 00:20:30,480
was when it got really

597
00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:32,159
interesting i guess

598
00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:34,080
well if you don't mind let's uh do you

599
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:35,840
want to hit on that a little bit when

600
00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:37,919
you say recurring was it just similar

601
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:40,240
ish or was it like an exact same dream

602
00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:42,480
that was taking place it was an exact

603
00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:45,919
same dream almost every time and it was

604
00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:47,360
very it was one of those dreams where

605
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:48,960
every time you'd wake up you were just

606
00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:51,039
soaked in sweat

607
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:52,960
and it wasn't even like uh it wasn't

608
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:54,799
weird either or it wasn't like a scary

609
00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:58,159
dream it was just very eerie

610
00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:00,559
and that's what was always i guess

611
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:02,880
weird about it yeah

612
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:04,640
now at this time i guess what i'd love

613
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:06,000
to do is kind of you know get you guys

614
00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,200
back stories up to about the time you

615
00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,520
guys meet at this time it was most of

616
00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:11,760
this taking place prior to bree being in

617
00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:14,000
the picture of your life or yeah oh yeah

618
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:15,360
that's all when you're still in

619
00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:18,400
california as a little kid yeah oh wow

620
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:19,840
okay so this isn't even so we're not

621
00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:21,679
even past you know 12 or 13 years old

622
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:24,240
he's had a plethora of

623
00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:27,120
different things before me

624
00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:29,120
very nice i'll give a sus to that for

625
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:30,080
anybody out there who's taking some

626
00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:32,240
drinks tonight um

627
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:33,200
so

628
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:34,799
you had this this dream that started

629
00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:36,640
reoccurring and again i know you said

630
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:38,400
you were kind of a loner but was there

631
00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:40,080
ever a moment i guess let's sit on that

632
00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:41,120
for a second since we brought up with

633
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:43,039
the young children did you ever try to

634
00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:45,840
reach out to anybody or was this what

635
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:48,799
was your process of handling it

636
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:50,799
just deal with it kind of

637
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:52,480
like that's kind of the way i was just a

638
00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:54,000
kid like that just

639
00:21:56,830 --> 00:21:55,919
i don't know i was a tough kid i guess i

640
00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:56,840
grew

641
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:58,400
up bikes

642
00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:00,799
rode bikes in the desert got hurt

643
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,960
deal with it

644
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:04,799
it was a different time things have

645
00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:06,640
changed and it's uh

646
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,919
things have progressed in different

647
00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:09,360
areas and it's

648
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:11,840
uh we're i don't think we're fully

649
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:13,360
appreciate maybe the transition that

650
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:15,360
we're having sometimes and until maybe

651
00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:16,640
50 years on the road we don't maybe

652
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:18,400
realize the history that we're living in

653
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:21,200
because it is a weird time how

654
00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:22,720
man not only

655
00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:25,600
to really even 20 30 years ago like the

656
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:27,360
way that you grew up as a child versus

657
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:28,159
now

658
00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:30,080
it's it's night and day

659
00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:31,600
and i don't know that it's ever been so

660
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:33,200
vastly different from one generation to

661
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:34,320
the next and we're only talking one

662
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:35,440
generation

663
00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:38,400
i mean there was always changes yes but

664
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,039
man we have just completely changed up

665
00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:43,120
the way that we connect to nature

666
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:45,120
um the idea of children

667
00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:46,480
going out and hey i remember that's how

668
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:47,840
we were my grandparents we were always

669
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:49,200
out about in the woods and just doing

670
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:50,159
whatever

671
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,440
not saying everybody has to have that

672
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:53,120
experience but there was some really

673
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,720
good rooted memories in that of just

674
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:56,080
being in nature

675
00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:57,919
and just running around right like

676
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:59,280
passing out sunburn at the end of the

677
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,120
day at least for me i sunburned a lot

678
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:03,280
obviously so i would pass out in the

679
00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:04,880
heat right but

680
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:06,840
you know now it's there's been a big

681
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:08,799
transition in the change of way that's

682
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,320
taken place and maybe i don't know we'll

683
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:12,000
see maybe it's yet to be determined if

684
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,720
it's a great thing or or not but so with

685
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:16,400
this taking place

686
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:18,640
uh what what what caused the move i

687
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:19,919
guess what was the up and moving the

688
00:23:24,149 --> 00:23:21,440
minnesota part

689
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,159
oh my dad's job transferred he wanted to

690
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:26,480
own a snow blower he did that was one

691
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:27,360
thing

692
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:29,760
his bucket list

693
00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:32,640
when he was a kid in the 60s

694
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,960
california his favorite football team

695
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:36,799
was the minnesota vikings

696
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:39,120
because they always had snow games and

697
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:41,120
so he'd love watching it sitting in the

698
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:43,120
san fernando valley because that's where

699
00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:44,960
i was actually born was

700
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:46,720
in uh encino

701
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,070
so we he grew up there just loving it

702
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:58,559
and so then he was like they train their

703
00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:00,240
job opened up in minnesota he was like

704
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:04,000
yeah it's full of fishing it's got snow

705
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:07,120
it's got this and yep we moved there

706
00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:09,600
man was it a different change

707
00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:11,440
yeah i can imagine and i completely

708
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:12,799
forgot to and alex you don't have to

709
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:14,159
give exact details if you want to i

710
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:15,600
forgot to hit on this did you have

711
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:17,440
siblings you know like did you have some

712
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,120
other children were you an only child no

713
00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:22,159
i had a sister too okay okay so you guys

714
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:23,440
move there and you're maybe getting

715
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,480
settled in

716
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:26,400
did you in the back your head at all

717
00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:27,520
because you're having these experiences

718
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:28,640
and at this point you've kind of just

719
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:30,720
adapted it into this is my everyday life

720
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:32,240
occasionally i see things and it is what

721
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:33,279
it is

722
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:34,799
did any part of you think that it was

723
00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:36,559
going to maybe

724
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:38,880
stay there in california or you know did

725
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,279
it immediately follow to minnesota or

726
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:43,679
did it have a cutoff that really it

727
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:46,000
slowed a lot down being in minnesota i

728
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:46,960
think

729
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:49,120
which is what was interesting so it was

730
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:51,440
mostly like especially there was other

731
00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:52,960
things that happened in minnesota i

732
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:55,919
think minnesota is less of a ufo hot

733
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:58,000
spot and more of the animal

734
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:00,000
ghost and paranormal hot spot a lot of

735
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,159
it has to do with the fact that

736
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:04,559
at least my theory is that

737
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:06,960
all of minnesota's bedrock is limestone

738
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:08,640
pure limestone

739
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:12,000
and that's supposed to resonate all this

740
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:14,000
because that's all limestone is is

741
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:18,000
literally built upon of old life

742
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:19,760
like it's old sea creatures and

743
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:21,760
everything that died down in the ocean

744
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:23,120
and then became

745
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:25,039
limestone

746
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:27,679
very true and i i think we've often hit

747
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,720
on this before too like there's

748
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:30,640
different zones around the earth that

749
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:32,480
seem to be these hotbeds for certain

750
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:33,520
things

751
00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:34,799
and um

752
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,799
you know i don't know that like you said

753
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:38,000
when it comes to minnesota i'm sure

754
00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:39,840
they've had their own

755
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:41,840
couple maybe yeah you guys welcome to

756
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,960
say hi to whoever out here obviously

757
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:44,640
cassie you do have so much support thank

758
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:46,000
you so much for supporting all the shows

759
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:47,279
that you support you do a ton of work

760
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:48,480
thank you

761
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:49,520
um

762
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:51,360
but you you know when you guys moved

763
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:53,440
there you noticed the things slowed down

764
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:55,520
but did did anything at that point i

765
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:58,240
guess transition into

766
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:59,520
more of you're saying more of the

767
00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:00,880
paranormal realm but you were already

768
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:02,640
kind of having paranormal experiences a

769
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:05,120
little bit right yeah so did you just

770
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:06,240
heighten it even though things slowed

771
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,640
down to become more i guess intense i

772
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:10,159
feel like it did become a little bit

773
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:12,480
more intense when we moved there

774
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:14,799
at least for the more of the yeah the

775
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:16,880
ghost stuff and the paranormal things

776
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:18,960
like that

777
00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:20,880
yeah that's where i think it

778
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,120
got a little bit more of a hot spot was

779
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:25,039
out in minnesota at least

780
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:27,120
nice there's also a lot more history you

781
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:28,240
know it's

782
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,159
people true well you know other than

783
00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:31,919
native americans and things like that

784
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:32,799
but

785
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:35,120
there's been a lot more civilization in

786
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:37,120
that part of the country than in the

787
00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:39,120
west and like where we were in the

788
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,159
desert

789
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:42,480
our town wasn't even a town until the

790
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:43,600
60s

791
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:45,039
or the 40s or something like that you

792
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:46,880
know it was it was a small few people

793
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:47,840
but it was out in the middle of the

794
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:50,000
desert it was still a two-hour drive to

795
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:52,720
los angeles from where we're at so

796
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:55,200
wow so give or take what what timeline

797
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:57,679
are we at here so this is the what like

798
00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:59,520
early 90s at this point maybe it's

799
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:01,840
really nice okay so at this point bri

800
00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:04,240
you had you had entered earth's realm we

801
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:05,919
had you had made an appearance at least

802
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,520
right so yes

803
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:10,080
with you making your appearance uh were

804
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:11,840
you guys far apart did you i mean

805
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,720
obviously i know you didn't know each

806
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,559
other later but how close in relation

807
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:16,480
were you guys at this point even being

808
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:18,720
in the same area were you way far apart

809
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:20,960
or relatively close

810
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:26,070
he moved

811
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:29,279
when he was young and so

812
00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:31,120
we were always

813
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:33,279
not too far of a distance away from each

814
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:34,559
other

815
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:37,760
so it's like no matter what you know

816
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:40,720
at the point in our lives we can call

817
00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,480
that oh hey i worked someplace and you

818
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:46,559
know then he's like oh i worked

819
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:49,840
someplace that was really close and it's

820
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:52,799
like so we would so we were always in

821
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:56,960
such a close vicinity of each other um

822
00:28:02,630 --> 00:27:59,200
yeah so going back to when he was in

823
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,640
high school so it's like

824
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,880
you know since him moving

825
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:06,480
to minnesota

826
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:09,039
it's like we were always kind of near

827
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,399
each other but

828
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:12,720
i mean we've only been together for

829
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:13,919
seven years

830
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:19,750
i love that we're going to hit on that a

831
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,880
little more but i just want to give

832
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:22,480
kathy splash a shout out thank you for

833
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,399
being here tonight she goes there are 9

834
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:26,399
ufo shows on right now i choose big

835
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:28,559
willy because big willy is a man of the

836
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:30,480
people and i want to nap in his beard

837
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:32,320
well look at gazzy look you could nap in

838
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:34,320
gary's beard too maybe if he gives

839
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:35,520
permission i don't know what the rules

840
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:37,120
are guess it can't be volunteering other

841
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:39,760
people's spirits

842
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:41,840
um but let's hit on that with you then

843
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,960
we're gonna come back to where you're at

844
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:44,880
here in a second here but so agree with

845
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:47,279
you did you have any kind of the same

846
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:48,640
question i would ask gary's when he

847
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:50,080
started did you what's the earliest

848
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:51,360
memory that you have that you're like

849
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:53,039
that was something i can't explain i

850
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:54,960
don't understand based on the way we're

851
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:57,440
told and taught to perceive reality

852
00:29:02,950 --> 00:28:58,720
um

853
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:05,590
most of the stuff that happened

854
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:06,799
in my

855
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:09,360
the house i grew up in happened to my

856
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:10,720
older brother

857
00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:12,880
so it's like okay i didn't have a

858
00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:16,159
paranormal experience until

859
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:18,159
like less than a month before i moved

860
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:20,640
out like that i had met gary

861
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:23,600
so it's like i hadn't

862
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:27,279
you know had my own real paranormal

863
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:30,720
event inside the house but my brother

864
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:31,760
would

865
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:34,960
when he was younger he had um

866
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:36,640
he was in the kitchen with my mom and

867
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,760
she was making a salad and then

868
00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:41,679
my brother said ow

869
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,720
and then she looked over and then

870
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,039
you know he had a pinch mark on him and

871
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,679
she's making salad and so my brother

872
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,520
thought that she was the one that

873
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:53,279
pinched him but it

874
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,720
we don't know

875
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:56,720
what it was so it's like i always was

876
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:59,600
told stuff but i guess the first

877
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:00,720
like

878
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:04,640
thing that happened in our life would be

879
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:08,720
um my family we were up north in duluth

880
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,559
okay so it's my dad uh mom and i and

881
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:14,880
we're visiting our family up there so my

882
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:17,840
brother is at home in the twin cities so

883
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:19,279
it's about

884
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:23,840
over two hours drive away and we're

885
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:26,399
out to eat with the rest of my family

886
00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:29,679
that all lives in northern minnesota

887
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:32,080
and then my mom gets a phone call

888
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:34,960
and i might have been a teenager

889
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:36,640
um

890
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:38,640
and she

891
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:41,200
he was she was asked by my brother you

892
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:43,200
know his bre there

893
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:46,320
and she's like yeah she's here at the

894
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:47,279
table

895
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:49,200
were with us why

896
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:52,720
and he said that he had a friend over at

897
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:56,159
their place or at my parents house

898
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:58,000
and

899
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:00,159
both of them heard

900
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:02,960
my name being called

901
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:06,480
oh wow and so yeah so that's where it's

902
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:07,279
like

903
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:10,399
i was you know still maybe a tw maybe a

904
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:11,279
tween

905
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:13,200
so it's you know that was just something

906
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:17,200
that was like weird and and freaky but

907
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:18,399
my grandpa

908
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:23,279
um saw ufo so ever since i was little um

909
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:24,640
i've always

910
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:28,480
known what ufos were or just

911
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:31,279
you know it's like i never had that

912
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:32,559
like i was

913
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,279
the only movie i was scared of was an

914
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:37,519
alien movie that my mom made me watch

915
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:40,640
when i was like a little little kid

916
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:43,440
and so i don't know if it's like

917
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:44,640
memories

918
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:45,600
of

919
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:46,640
maybe

920
00:31:50,789 --> 00:31:49,440
i was abducted or you know it's past

921
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,799
life memories

922
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:52,480
because it's like i've never been

923
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:55,039
disturbed by something

924
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:57,440
and that's the only thing that even as a

925
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:00,640
kid it's like i you know would be

926
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:02,799
in the house at night and i would always

927
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,519
just feel like something's watching me

928
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:07,440
so i guess you know

929
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:09,919
that would be

930
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:12,799
recalling an aspect of you know my

931
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:14,960
childhood and kind of

932
00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:17,760
sensing things i guess but i never had

933
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:20,399
anything bad happen to me i never had

934
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:21,279
any

935
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:24,640
paranormal thing happen until

936
00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:27,519
like when i was like 26

937
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:30,159
right before moving out so that

938
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:32,159
my relative

939
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,120
you know

940
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:35,279
story pre-gary is

941
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,320
not as exciting as his

942
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:40,159
that's for sure

943
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:42,080
well first of all let's give simon wales

944
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:43,840
a shout out his takeaway from this whole

945
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:47,200
thing was see eat burgers salad is evil

946
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:50,159
uh yeah it's his take away from the

947
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:51,840
story i love it

948
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,480
um but it sounds like your household and

949
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:56,159
i could be wrong i guess i want to make

950
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:57,600
this presumption too much here but it

951
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,880
sounds like your household might have a

952
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:00,720
little more open to the discussion than

953
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:02,240
perhaps what you were dealing with gary

954
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:04,159
where people your family was at least

955
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:05,760
talking about

956
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,760
the experiences your brother was having

957
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:09,840
oh jojo bone thank you so much for that

958
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:12,640
amazing super chat we love you brother

959
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:14,000
jojo bone

960
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:18,789
i love it

961
00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:20,240
um

962
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:21,039
so

963
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:22,960
you at the time

964
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,880
we're having some that was the question

965
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:26,320
i have for you what was the movie did

966
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:28,080
you say was it one of the alien movies

967
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:29,600
or was it

968
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:32,720
it was an alien move not not the alien

969
00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:34,559
series it was

970
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:38,240
i think it's a lifetime movie

971
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:40,480
and it's with candace

972
00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:43,279
burke or the the one

973
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:45,760
the actress that played uh

974
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,799
dj

975
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:48,720
on full house

976
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:49,440
so

977
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:50,559
candace

978
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:54,080
is her first name so it was when she was

979
00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:56,880
like a teenager so it was in the early

980
00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:59,840
90s and it pretty sure it was a scary

981
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:01,120
movie or no because i almost want to

982
00:34:04,549 --> 00:34:02,720
have the chat in the chat know what this

983
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:04,559
movie is

984
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:07,600
it's really obscure i don't i haven't

985
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:10,800
known anyone that's seen it but

986
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,440
um it's like visitors in the night or

987
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:15,280
something but

988
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,240
what freaked me out was

989
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:20,399
when so the mom

990
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:21,599
was

991
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:27,200
the actress

992
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:29,040
that was in full house

993
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:30,560
she

994
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:31,919
was abducted

995
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:34,320
and then that when her abduction started

996
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:37,280
happening and then there was a scene

997
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:39,679
where the mom was on like the the ship

998
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:43,040
and then saw the uh aliens and then you

999
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:45,520
could see like little hybrid babies and

1000
00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:47,119
you know the

1001
00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:50,000
tubes so it's like that's the part that

1002
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:52,399
scared me of it and

1003
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:54,480
i was like mom turn it off and she would

1004
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:56,560
she didn't turn it off so i always give

1005
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:58,000
her

1006
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:01,440
visitors okay so it's visitors of

1007
00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:02,800
the night

1008
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,079
and it's from

1009
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:06,960
95 so i was i'm gonna put that on a list

1010
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:08,800
visitors of the night yeah i was like

1011
00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:14,790
i love it

1012
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,440
um okay so you had this experience and

1013
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:19,200
you hit on something in it and that i

1014
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:20,560
want to see when this happened because i

1015
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,359
know you've talked about this in the

1016
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:23,280
past but i forgot to ask you

1017
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:24,800
because we know that you both at least

1018
00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:26,079
or at least bri i guess i can't speak

1019
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:28,320
for you gary have had some past life

1020
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:30,800
experience work done before was this

1021
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:32,560
prior to youtube meeting or afterwards

1022
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:33,599
because if it was afterwards we'll get

1023
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:36,400
into that a little bit later

1024
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,920
the

1025
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:40,079
well that happened

1026
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:41,280
the event

1027
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:44,079
or with the movie or no the past life

1028
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:46,560
reading or the past past life yeah past

1029
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:49,359
life reading um we were together where

1030
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:50,880
did you go okay

1031
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:54,160
minneapolis so it was

1032
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:56,640
six years ago maybe was when we had the

1033
00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:00,160
reading done yeah i would say that well

1034
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:01,440
then let's do this you mentioned you had

1035
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,040
an experience right before you and gary

1036
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:05,200
meet so i guess we'll kind of we'll get

1037
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:07,359
to where you're at with your story wraps

1038
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:08,800
up to you and gary so what what took

1039
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:10,400
place for you what was the uh the event

1040
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,990
um

1041
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,589
could you say that again i was looking

1042
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:22,560
at at the chat so i heard half of it and

1043
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,320
i only have one

1044
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,720
oh i know i forgot about that

1045
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:28,320
so you were mentioning that you had the

1046
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:29,920
one event that took place right before

1047
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:32,480
you and gary met correct yeah yeah

1048
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:35,119
and what i i apologize maybe i'm having

1049
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:36,800
i could be having a time lapse myself i

1050
00:36:46,530 --> 00:36:37,839
apologize

1051
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:48,230
[Music]

1052
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:50,960
yeah my experience was i was getting

1053
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:51,839
ready

1054
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,520
in the bathroom by myself and

1055
00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:57,760
sorry i'll be right back readjusting

1056
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,640
okay

1057
00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:00,079
um

1058
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:03,920
yes his asthma is acting up but

1059
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:06,640
he's just getting over the flu

1060
00:37:09,450 --> 00:37:08,480
simon says he's not buying it bree was

1061
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:09,460
dreaming of burgers

1062
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:12,400
[Laughter]

1063
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:14,560
okay so you said you were in bed or no

1064
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:17,680
way i was in the bathroom getting ready

1065
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:20,720
so i was doing my makeup and out of the

1066
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,520
corner of my eye i saw in the um

1067
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:27,839
corner of the bathroom where the shampoo

1068
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:29,920
bottles are

1069
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:31,040
it

1070
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:32,160
um

1071
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:34,640
totally rotated

1072
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:37,440
so like but it didn't fall down

1073
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:38,160
so

1074
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:39,599
it

1075
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:43,839
yeah because all of a sudden this bot

1076
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:46,079
you know this bottle

1077
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:51,750
but it didn't fall so it made this it

1078
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:53,119
made okay yeah for anybody who might be

1079
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:54,560
just listening uh bri held up a bottle

1080
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,320
and she made like a basically a 360.

1081
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:00,560
yeah but it didn't fall down just no

1082
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:02,000
just decided i'm gonna i'm gonna move

1083
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:03,359
along here no

1084
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:05,359
yeah it didn't it

1085
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:07,200
and so it's like there's no

1086
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:09,040
windows

1087
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:10,480
uh the

1088
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:12,880
rinky-dink little fan

1089
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:15,920
isn't gonna be powerful enough to

1090
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,720
only affect that one bottle

1091
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:20,079
and

1092
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:22,240
you know there's there was a a bottle

1093
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:23,920
right next to it

1094
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:26,640
and it wasn't moving it didn't get

1095
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:29,280
tipped over either but it didn't it

1096
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:31,040
didn't move either so

1097
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:34,480
it was one singular thing

1098
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:36,640
obviously being manipulated and it

1099
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,640
didn't fall down

1100
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:40,720
yeah i just think those toys the weeble

1101
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:42,560
wobbles they we will only wobble but

1102
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:48,950
thank god i'm bald so i'm assuming he

1103
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:50,560
doesn't have to do a shampoo bottle so

1104
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:52,560
maybe that's what he's going for

1105
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:55,520
i think so or that he just doesn't bathe

1106
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:57,440
either one of them

1107
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:58,880
i mean you should still probably you

1108
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:00,880
know get at least a little bit of the

1109
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:02,480
scrubbing going there even if you are

1110
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:03,440
bald

1111
00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:04,320
um

1112
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:06,400
so so this experience took place to you

1113
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:07,760
did you tell anybody about it or did you

1114
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:09,839
kind of keep that one yourself as far as

1115
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:11,920
if you have that experience

1116
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:14,720
i told my family and that's the thing

1117
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:16,240
that

1118
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:18,400
when i was getting ready

1119
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:21,839
i was messing around on my phone and

1120
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:25,440
i had a picture of deviled um deviled

1121
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:26,480
eggs

1122
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:27,200
that

1123
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:29,839
but i was editing it and so i was

1124
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:32,560
putting the little like troll faces on

1125
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:35,200
but i did like a pentagram with the

1126
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:37,520
mustard and so

1127
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:40,480
i was do i was posting it like on

1128
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:42,720
instagram or something

1129
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:44,160
before

1130
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:45,200
the

1131
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:46,640
bottle

1132
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:47,359
uh

1133
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:49,200
moved and so

1134
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,640
i made i told my family that and then my

1135
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:54,960
older brother is just

1136
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:57,280
you know like oh well you've got to be

1137
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,000
careful about what you watch and stuff

1138
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:02,160
and it's my family i grew up jehovah's

1139
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,839
witness so it's

1140
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:06,079
oh we missed that part very important

1141
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:07,760
okay that explains what you're doing

1142
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:10,079
with the this one perhaps i was like

1143
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:11,680
just tell me talks but that makes more

1144
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,400
sense i guess yeah no i i i don't get

1145
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:16,240
along very well with with my older

1146
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:19,920
brother and so i i like to point out to

1147
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:21,440
my mom i was like

1148
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:23,760
nothing bad ever happened to me mom

1149
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:26,400
doesn't that say something

1150
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:28,400
and so it's like i just i

1151
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:32,079
i like to rub it in but i also wonder if

1152
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:34,000
i had

1153
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,119
guardian spirits looking out after me

1154
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:40,240
because i've you know like i've

1155
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:42,319
saved my aunt's

1156
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,280
life

1157
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:45,920
um when i was a teenager and so it's

1158
00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:48,160
like there are so many instances where

1159
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:49,280
it's like

1160
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:51,359
i could have been taken away from this

1161
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:52,960
time but

1162
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:57,040
it's like we hadn't met yet and so

1163
00:41:02,069 --> 00:40:59,920
you know it's it's weird at how

1164
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:02,079
and of course he's just a

1165
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:05,440
a guy that likes danger so he's

1166
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:07,040
escaped

1167
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,800
close calls

1168
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:10,160
many

1169
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,720
more times than me

1170
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:14,880
that happens that'll happen in a life of

1171
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:16,400
adventure right

1172
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:18,480
uh it does

1173
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,640
so okay so let's do this then so in

1174
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:22,880
capping that off a little bit you you

1175
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:24,079
had this thank you very much for the

1176
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:25,359
heart over there on facebook we ever

1177
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:27,280
gave that love we thank you thank you so

1178
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,280
much if you feel free you can hop into

1179
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:31,119
the uh

1180
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:32,640
the youtube side of things that's

1181
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:34,079
everybody's hanging out and chatting or

1182
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:35,520
you can feel free to send your messages

1183
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:36,720
and i'll do my best to get them up there

1184
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:38,480
for you so

1185
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:40,640
you at this time then have had these

1186
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:43,920
experiences and coming back to you gary

1187
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,760
were you um

1188
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:47,760
i guess you said mid-90s things are kind

1189
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:48,960
of wrapping up so

1190
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:50,560
you moved out i'm guessing at some point

1191
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:51,839
you went out and got your own place or

1192
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:54,640
something of that nature and did things

1193
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:57,359
again continue to follow you

1194
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:59,040
yeah we

1195
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:01,119
i mean so yeah you should tell when you

1196
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:04,880
were a kid what's that the doctors

1197
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:06,880
oh yeah we were talking about that too

1198
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:08,560
yeah for sure

1199
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:11,760
yeah so yeah so that's still in the

1200
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:14,640
mojave desert in the 90s

1201
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:17,760
yeah that ties into the dreams too

1202
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:19,760
because that was the the reoccurring

1203
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,680
dreams was always

1204
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:23,280
it was very

1205
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:25,280
it's very hard to describe

1206
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:28,160
but it was very much like tron almost

1207
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:32,079
like circuit boardy very bright lighty

1208
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:34,079
very weird and so it was always this

1209
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:36,160
dream where i was getting pulled into

1210
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,880
this like like tron in the original tron

1211
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:40,560
when they're driving those tank things

1212
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:41,839
down that

1213
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:43,760
wall you're down through the

1214
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:46,000
maze or whatever it is

1215
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:46,800
and

1216
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:52,000
very very like circuity looking

1217
00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:53,839
weirdness and i just remember floating

1218
00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:55,359
through that and that's always been my

1219
00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:58,319
reoccurring dream like floating standing

1220
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,040
up or on your back floating like laying

1221
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:03,440
down well it's more of i i don't know

1222
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:05,680
okay just floating it was like all

1223
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,920
around you so it was really hard to tell

1224
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:10,000
and it was like yeah the the borg the

1225
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:11,599
grid thing

1226
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:12,960
and uh

1227
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:15,200
it was uh

1228
00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:16,880
it was very weird instrument but it

1229
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:19,040
would always wake up freaked out and it

1230
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:20,319
would always be

1231
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:21,839
whatever and i would still like every

1232
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:24,000
once in a while i still have that dream

1233
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:25,680
and it's still just weird it creeps me

1234
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:26,720
out i wake up in the morning and i'm

1235
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:32,069
but so

1236
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,079
i'd always get these dreams and then one

1237
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:36,240
night i had the dream and then i started

1238
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:38,720
having a really bad headache

1239
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:41,520
and it just wouldn't go away and so

1240
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:44,160
finally we went into the doctor's office

1241
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:46,000
and they went in and they did a little

1242
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:47,920
x-ray and they were like there there's

1243
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:50,319
something in your in your head like

1244
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:52,079
right up in here

1245
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:53,839
and they brought you down yep and they

1246
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:54,960
were like well we can get it you know

1247
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:56,319
they just stuck some needle nose or

1248
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,520
something

1249
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:59,520
yeah up in the cavity yeah

1250
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:00,880
and uh

1251
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:02,800
they reached up there

1252
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:06,160
and basically pulled out what looked

1253
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,280
like a weird gold bead

1254
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:11,040
but it was

1255
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:14,560
it was really textured not like just

1256
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:16,880
smooth it was like

1257
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:19,680
all over it was kind of like

1258
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,440
see you know what i'm talking about

1259
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:23,760
thing that like an exo

1260
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:26,480
like a little barrier was it like a

1261
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:27,359
little

1262
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:28,720
because the

1263
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:29,760
other

1264
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:32,720
implants i've looked at have

1265
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:35,200
had like a

1266
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:38,560
like a little like a layer around

1267
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:40,000
hmm

1268
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:40,800
you know

1269
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,000
obviously the we all know mr terry

1270
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,240
lovelace uh great guy who's done amazing

1271
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:48,240
work with experiences within ufology but

1272
00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:49,839
so terry lovelace wrote in one of his

1273
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:51,359
books one of the common denominators

1274
00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:54,079
with experiencers is recurring dreams

1275
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:56,079
so for sure as far as that happening and

1276
00:45:01,990 --> 00:44:59,520
then but you actually having

1277
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:02,000
i mean did so what did they have like an

1278
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:03,839
idea like what what even caused them to

1279
00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:06,480
realize hey you have something in here

1280
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,079
they just i guess they were feeling

1281
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,839
around maybe but i just kept saying it

1282
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:11,440
was like it was a pain and it was like

1283
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:13,520
right here all the time

1284
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:15,520
and so they just i guess they probably

1285
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:17,839
felt something and i was like six or

1286
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:19,040
seven

1287
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:22,720
and oh wow they it looked like that

1288
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:25,119
ball that will bought our old roommate

1289
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:26,640
and it was this but it looks kind of

1290
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:30,240
like it's almost like um it reminds me

1291
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:31,119
of

1292
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:35,520
the earring like the the

1293
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:37,359
oh i forgot what kind of earring it is

1294
00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:40,160
but it's like a a hoop and then it's a a

1295
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:40,960
ball

1296
00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:43,760
like a uh steel

1297
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:45,280
that has a piece that hangs in the

1298
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:46,240
center

1299
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:50,480
it's like that silver you know like a

1300
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:51,520
silver

1301
00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:52,560
bead

1302
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:54,160
like a

1303
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:55,359
little bibi

1304
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:57,680
it looked just like the ball from

1305
00:46:02,069 --> 00:45:59,760
guardians of the galaxy is the best way

1306
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:02,079
to describe if people don't know okay

1307
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:03,599
really small

1308
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:04,880
i mean not small but it was like the

1309
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:08,000
size of weed right and they took it out

1310
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,839
and it was they put in a little glass

1311
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,280
thing and they said

1312
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,440
oh that just looks like a bead from your

1313
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:15,119
like your sister's kit she was probably

1314
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,640
making beads you were sleeping and she

1315
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:19,280
jammed it up your nose over your nose

1316
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:20,880
off they went with it

1317
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,400
and they never even got to see it they

1318
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:23,920
just took it right out of there and we

1319
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:26,400
never were like well that was weird

1320
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:27,359
so

1321
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,440
that was the one of the weird ones

1322
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:30,960
yeah no kidding

1323
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:33,680
it's like yeah you would feel it if your

1324
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:36,400
sister who is younger

1325
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:38,960
than you at that point like if she's a

1326
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:41,119
toddler no they're not like

1327
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:43,280
she wouldn't have like the strength to

1328
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:46,079
get something up like right or would she

1329
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:47,599
use like a chopstick to get it all the

1330
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:48,560
way up there

1331
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,800
dude i'm telling you i have a toddler

1332
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:52,160
kind of almost two but for sure one of

1333
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:53,440
them upstairs and they are the least

1334
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,400
gentle

1335
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:56,000
creatures and beings on earth they can

1336
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:57,760
be so nice as they approach but that

1337
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,440
final descent

1338
00:47:01,990 --> 00:47:01,040
between the touching of the face is just

1339
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:02,000
like

1340
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,920
all air that they had is gone and

1341
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,359
they're just bam they've impacted

1342
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,440
whatever they're about to touch

1343
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:09,280
ben brings a good point he says silver

1344
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:12,480
slash gold balls are archetypes

1345
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:14,240
so

1346
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,560
i mean i and ben you might know more

1347
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:18,960
about this but i i'm correct if i'm

1348
00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:20,720
wrong i cannot for the life of me

1349
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:22,640
remember that um

1350
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,319
he's passed on now but there was a there

1351
00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:26,319
was a late doctor who did amazing work

1352
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:28,559
in this area with people experiences who

1353
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:30,000
had had

1354
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:32,000
these implants and i know that he had

1355
00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:34,400
more than one that had an implant um in

1356
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:35,599
the nose

1357
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:44,390
like maybe two months ago

1358
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:48,000
about the doctor who uh would uh remove

1359
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:52,079
the implants from patients

1360
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:53,280
very true

1361
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:54,960
oh some of us in the chat are going to

1362
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,839
get this one uh wes h says how about big

1363
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,280
stones

1364
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:01,520
some coins

1365
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:10,309
so

1366
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:11,680
with that happening though i'm guessing

1367
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:14,000
your parents just wrote this off as like

1368
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:16,079
well i guess whatever was the bead yep

1369
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,800
but these these you know these these uh

1370
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:20,400
dreams kept continuing for you beyond

1371
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:23,119
this point right yeah oh yeah

1372
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:25,040
i love it i love it and then the way the

1373
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:30,790
you gotta tell them about what you have

1374
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:33,119
still so yeah and then

1375
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:34,480
start stuff started happening and then

1376
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:35,680
it was about

1377
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:38,160
oh 2 000

1378
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:44,390
sorry oh you're good and uh

1379
00:48:46,829 --> 00:48:45,200
we

1380
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:46,839
i was living in this

1381
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:49,280
weird flop house with a bunch say i used

1382
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:51,760
to be a bike mechanic bicycles

1383
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:54,319
and i was a partier and we you know i

1384
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:56,160
was bmx kid my whole life i was

1385
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:58,720
skateboarding i was snowboarding skiing

1386
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,200
anything with the board fast and you got

1387
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:03,119
hurt that was what i did

1388
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:04,880
you know i love it

1389
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:06,640
we were jackass before jackass was

1390
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:08,079
around right

1391
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:09,440
and uh

1392
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:10,480
so

1393
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:12,640
we did a bunch of stuff and but one

1394
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:14,640
night i was all drunk and

1395
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,200
we had this bizarre and that's a whole

1396
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:19,599
other thing too is with this bizarre

1397
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:22,000
duplex up in north minneapolis it was

1398
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,000
about three blocks away from where

1399
00:49:28,829 --> 00:49:26,640
prince was the prince house from purple

1400
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,839
rain

1401
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:30,400
and

1402
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:33,680
we found there was like a hidden away

1403
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:35,599
apartment at it that was all locked

1404
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:37,119
behind this one door

1405
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:39,359
and i can get doors unlocked so i got it

1406
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:41,599
unlocked and we went up there

1407
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:42,559
and

1408
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:45,440
it was the freakiest build it was

1409
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:47,599
half a three-quarters

1410
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:50,640
abandon or unfinished attic with this

1411
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:52,160
weird

1412
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:54,000
room built into the side that they

1413
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:56,800
rented out back in had to be the 90s

1414
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,319
because of the posters that were still

1415
00:50:01,670 --> 00:50:00,319
hanging on the damn wall

1416
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:01,680
we had like a

1417
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:03,920
tool animus poster right when it came

1418
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:04,720
out

1419
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:07,359
and all these other 90s posters and this

1420
00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:09,760
really nasty bed and it was creepy and

1421
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,599
then the other part of the house

1422
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,440
there were ropes hanging

1423
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:15,839
and somebody had like a fake like

1424
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:17,839
pull-up thing that they built for the

1425
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,599
pulling up and then like a weight bench

1426
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:21,280
up there so we were joking around it was

1427
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:27,750
but so i'm all drunk one night and we go

1428
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:28,559
and

1429
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:30,319
i remember

1430
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:32,720
i fell down this or i think i fell down

1431
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,839
the stairs

1432
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,920
coming down like three or four stairs

1433
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:37,680
just blah blah blah

1434
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:38,800
but then

1435
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,119
you know a couple weeks later

1436
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:43,440
i well a little while after that i had

1437
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:44,079
the

1438
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:45,280
weird dream

1439
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:46,319
and then

1440
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:49,280
i started having a pain in my arm

1441
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:50,559
and

1442
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,880
i've never had that lump in my arm

1443
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:58,160
before

1444
00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:00,400
what the hell is this

1445
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,720
and that's still there it's i don't know

1446
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:04,400
if you can see it on

1447
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:05,760
camera let me make it yeah let's say

1448
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:07,280
i'll try to make it a little bigger here

1449
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:09,280
let me do this oops whatever says it

1450
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:11,760
backwards for us

1451
00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:13,440
but i don't think we can get the texture

1452
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:15,280
in the way to look right but you're too

1453
00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:17,599
pale you're blinded fire if there's a

1454
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:19,359
lump you can do it right there no i i

1455
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,190
go ahead so at first i was like oh it's

1456
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:29,599
like i i messed up my bone

1457
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:31,920
you know like it was some bone spur like

1458
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:34,160
cracked my arm or something

1459
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:35,920
and like i've broken bones before and

1460
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,319
went for days without even noticing

1461
00:51:41,589 --> 00:51:40,559
i broke my hand i broke my hand at work

1462
00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:41,599
one day

1463
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:43,520
and i still finished my whole day at

1464
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:45,599
work and then i came into work the next

1465
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:47,280
day with my hand looking like mickey

1466
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:48,319
mouse

1467
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:55,589
and i was like all right so i went to

1468
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:56,800
the hospital and they're like yeah you

1469
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:58,640
fractured your hand like finger all the

1470
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:00,319
way down there

1471
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:02,400
and uh but

1472
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:04,400
so i was like it's some weird bump in my

1473
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:06,160
arm and i'm like but then i start

1474
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:07,760
noticing

1475
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:08,800
that

1476
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:12,160
it's not really attached to the arm

1477
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:14,559
to the bone like if i grab it and i move

1478
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:15,200
it

1479
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:23,119
you know what's so hard about two like

1480
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:24,319
brown dot plots so you're gonna face it

1481
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:25,520
like oh my gosh

1482
00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:26,480
i know

1483
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:27,920
oh go ahead

1484
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:30,079
no and just that's the same i'm

1485
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:31,920
squirmish to some things like i don't

1486
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:34,079
like blood and

1487
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:35,440
bodily

1488
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:36,800
stuff

1489
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:38,400
so it's

1490
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:39,440
like because

1491
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:41,920
you can feel it where it's

1492
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:43,680
you know it's

1493
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:46,400
it's not something protruding

1494
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,280
right where it's like you can

1495
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:51,200
tell that you can

1496
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:52,960
you know manipulate

1497
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:55,440
the area a little bit so it it moves a

1498
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,720
little bit

1499
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:58,480
what's crazy too about it is you know

1500
00:53:02,069 --> 00:53:00,400
how hard a time terry lovelace had

1501
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,079
people come out to even look what was in

1502
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:04,319
his leg right so even if you go into

1503
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:05,920
somebody and you're like please look at

1504
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:07,680
this they're like well is it affecting

1505
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:10,079
you is it hurting your daily life and if

1506
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:11,760
it's not

1507
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,880
right i mean i don't know i guess i

1508
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:14,480
should ask you have you asked anybody

1509
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,920
about that

1510
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:17,520
the one time i asked at the doctor's

1511
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:19,359
office they just felt it went

1512
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:21,359
does it hurt or does it bother you and

1513
00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:23,520
i'm like no just like that and i said

1514
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:25,200
well that's probably nothing you know if

1515
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:28,079
it starts to hurt really bad then we

1516
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:29,839
might you know take a look at it it

1517
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,160
might be you know cancer or something

1518
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:34,319
you know but yeah no they're like yeah

1519
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:36,640
it really doesn't feel like anything so

1520
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:38,640
they just leave it alone

1521
00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:40,160
so it sounds like if you are an

1522
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:42,160
experiencer out there perhaps and if you

1523
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:43,599
have what you could perceive could

1524
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:47,040
possibly be some sort of i love it

1525
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:48,400
if you possibly have something that

1526
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:49,520
could be

1527
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:50,960
an implant you just need to tell them

1528
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:53,599
like it's causing me so much pain this

1529
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:02,470
i'm surprised you and our old roommate

1530
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:04,319
when we were still drinking that you

1531
00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:06,480
guys didn't do

1532
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:08,839
you know your

1533
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:11,839
diy removal no

1534
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:15,040
i'm not cutting that deep into my arm

1535
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:16,640
i let him take out my stitches and that

1536
00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:18,880
was it that's why

1537
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:21,680
there is yeah

1538
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,319
yeah a lot of times so let's talk about

1539
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,400
all jojo bone you're so amazing just

1540
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:28,640
rolling a doobie in a van down by the

1541
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:35,829
you know honestly guys we can't put this

1542
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:38,640
past jojo he might really be in a van

1543
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,160
down by the river right now just

1544
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:42,000
enjoying the night sky

1545
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,160
rolling it rolling a doobie what kind of

1546
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,079
van is it

1547
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:48,720
it's kind of deep

1548
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:52,319
it's multiple questions jojo you know

1549
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,789
so when this took place then you you at

1550
00:55:01,670 --> 00:55:00,720
this time you're living in this uh is

1551
00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:01,680
this the place where you started to have

1552
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:03,280
some pretty interesting experiences as

1553
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:04,880
well with your roommate is that the same

1554
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:08,240
location that was after we met

1555
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:11,440
oh that was the the place that

1556
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:13,280
you were talking about

1557
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:15,200
with the crazy apartment upstairs that

1558
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:17,760
was before we had met not just that was

1559
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:19,440
when we met that was the place that i

1560
00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:22,319
was living when we met right but

1561
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:26,000
when you went in for the doctor

1562
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:28,480
i thought you saw that or was it one

1563
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:31,359
accident the about my bump my arm yeah

1564
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:34,559
that was just a couple years ago it was

1565
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:36,960
like yeah three four years ago

1566
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:38,960
so let's do that let's head on when you

1567
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:41,119
guys met why where and how you know if

1568
00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:42,319
you guys are okay sharing that a quick

1569
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:44,079
synopsis of like where and how you guys

1570
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:46,559
met how did that process even happen

1571
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:49,680
yeah so it's odd or

1572
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:53,839
um not odd nowadays but we met on tinder

1573
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:56,799
about yeah yeah seven years ago our

1574
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,559
anniversary is

1575
00:56:02,309 --> 00:56:00,319
on the 15th

1576
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:02,319
oh happy early anniversary guys thank

1577
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:05,359
you congrats yeah it'll be seven

1578
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,799
seven years

1579
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:08,640
then

1580
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:11,280
um so i

1581
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:15,200
was his first match that he

1582
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:18,160
talked because someone suggested someone

1583
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:19,520
forced him

1584
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:21,839
you know to to try

1585
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:24,799
tinder and so he

1586
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:27,200
you were my first match of all

1587
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,720
that yeah that's what i said

1588
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:30,640
was your first match that was the first

1589
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:32,240
one done you know what it's too

1590
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:34,079
complicated just one that's all i need

1591
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:35,839
that's

1592
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:38,880
another

1593
00:56:41,829 --> 00:56:40,960
interesting

1594
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:41,839
thing

1595
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:44,400
true true because most people anymore my

1596
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:45,839
gosh with the internet there's so many

1597
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:48,319
options for anything like shopping like

1598
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:49,520
it used to be just going to buy you a

1599
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:50,960
bowl and they're like but now what color

1600
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:53,280
bowl what shapeable what tavis what

1601
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:54,880
shall it be made of and there's just so

1602
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:57,440
many options that sometimes i'm like

1603
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,200
i almost wish i had i don't know maybe i

1604
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:01,440
don't wish i had less options but

1605
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:03,200
i have found that too many options

1606
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:04,720
sometimes

1607
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:06,160
slows me down a little bit at least for

1608
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:07,839
me the type of personality i am i can

1609
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:08,960
see what it looks like in this color now

1610
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:10,640
i gotta see what it looks like

1611
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:11,359
so

1612
00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:14,400
uh jojo bone says blue van by the way oh

1613
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,839
mr crowley thank you so much for that

1614
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:17,359
incredible super chat we we love that

1615
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:18,559
brother thank you

1616
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:21,359
uh lou all right excuse me yeah lou bw

1617
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:23,839
and liz and dave lou is or liz is

1618
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:26,480
awesome thank you for that oh i'm so

1619
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:30,319
special bw's big willy isn't it i didn't

1620
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:32,160
i didn't even understand the acronym i'm

1621
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:34,079
sorry mr crowley thank you for being

1622
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:35,359
here tonight

1623
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:37,040
um yes

1624
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,640
madrid haska thank you for being here

1625
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:40,720
tonight uh you are also multitasking

1626
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,040
that is good we appreciate that

1627
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:45,839
so you guys met you you go out and you

1628
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:47,599
have your date and then you end up

1629
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:50,079
moving in together it sounds like

1630
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:52,240
what what happened then did you notice

1631
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:54,319
brie an uptick in the activity of say

1632
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:58,789
yeah

1633
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:59,839
um

1634
00:58:03,109 --> 00:58:00,799
and it's

1635
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:03,119
i know it's just like

1636
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:10,069
it's like i had no idea what

1637
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:11,200
was

1638
00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:14,400
down the road about you know

1639
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:15,760
the different

1640
00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:17,920
because i've always been interested in

1641
00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:20,960
paranormal ufo everything since i and i

1642
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,119
just didn't have experiences myself but

1643
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:25,599
once and that's the thing when people

1644
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:28,000
don't have experiences and they want

1645
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:28,799
them

1646
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:30,240
and they're like i don't care i just

1647
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:31,359
want any

1648
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:33,680
be careful for what you ask for be

1649
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:36,319
careful for even what you think because

1650
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:39,200
even thoughts can be manifested but

1651
00:58:42,309 --> 00:58:40,319
words

1652
00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:42,319
have so much weight to them

1653
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:45,520
so that's where you have to i constantly

1654
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:48,799
have to work on not being that capricorn

1655
00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:51,280
that's you know depressed you know the

1656
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:53,599
the mopey sometime you

1657
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:56,319
capricorn you know um

1658
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:57,920
and so

1659
00:59:02,069 --> 00:58:59,520
it uh

1660
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:02,079
it definitely

1661
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:06,160
yeah when we moved moved in it

1662
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:07,119
yeah

1663
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:09,520
it it picked up for sure so that's where

1664
00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:12,400
it's always be careful for what you ask

1665
00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:14,559
for um

1666
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:16,480
but

1667
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,040
yeah we had a a lot of weird um

1668
00:59:26,150 --> 00:59:23,599
jojo bones says i love tender tender

1669
00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:26,160
t-e-n-d-t-e-n-d-r

1670
00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:28,079
hey who doesn't love tender meat right

1671
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:30,640
tender steak you know tender hugs they

1672
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,640
all matter tenderness is good

1673
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:34,240
tender kisses

1674
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:36,160
exactly ben obviously from newfound

1675
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:39,440
garage says exactly bree that's true

1676
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:42,559
uh but in this you you moved in

1677
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:43,680
did

1678
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:45,280
were you already having some experiences

1679
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:47,760
then gary prior to brie moving in with

1680
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:50,319
you and if so are you worth noting

1681
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:53,680
yeah oh yeah we uh jeez that that was

1682
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:54,400
like

1683
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:56,480
it was just another day when for me we

1684
01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:58,160
moved into that place

1685
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,400
and a little bit more intense but it was

1686
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:02,400
just like yep that's what always

1687
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:03,599
wasn't

1688
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:08,720
whatever was in the house was evil like

1689
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:10,559
a poltergeist

1690
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,760
like

1691
01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:13,520
oh a little scary

1692
01:00:18,549 --> 01:00:16,160
that's rough that makes it like oh yeah

1693
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:18,559
his shirt talk of the dead right or a

1694
01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:22,160
seizure yeah i had to buy that for him

1695
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,119
talk to the dead it's a polter oh

1696
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:27,119
akashi

1697
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:28,960
she is in the house one of the greatest

1698
01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:31,200
smiles of all time in all of ufology

1699
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:32,799
right there for akashi chris i'll tell

1700
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,960
you what

1701
01:00:37,829 --> 01:00:36,240
and so um

1702
01:00:40,829 --> 01:00:37,839
yeah yeah that's so good continue that

1703
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:44,390
is definitely

1704
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:45,200
the

1705
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:46,960
most

1706
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:48,480
not

1707
01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:51,839
it's the most i could tell that whatever

1708
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:54,640
it was there was [\h__\h] with us

1709
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:56,400
not in a nice way

1710
01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:58,640
because like all

1711
01:01:03,190 --> 01:00:59,920
here

1712
01:01:05,030 --> 01:01:03,200
like when i'm by myself like i'll have i

1713
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:05,040
had the humidifier

1714
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:08,400
on on off and it's an actual knob so you

1715
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:10,960
have to turn it and i'll you know have

1716
01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:12,480
my back to it and all of a sudden it

1717
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:13,920
turned on

1718
01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:17,440
and so i'm like i'll have stuff fall

1719
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:19,760
it's always when my back

1720
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:20,640
is

1721
01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:21,599
you know

1722
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:24,559
facing so i'm always looking away and

1723
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,359
stuff that's perfectly stable will be

1724
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:29,200
knocked off and so it's like i know

1725
01:01:33,109 --> 01:01:31,680
something's trying to catch my attention

1726
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:33,119
but careful

1727
01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:34,079
yeah

1728
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:37,119
he's got to run for a little bit but

1729
01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:39,359
yeah walk in the next room don't run

1730
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:40,799
don't run

1731
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:42,400
everybody says that you can run a normal

1732
01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:44,400
rain but not in the icy rain you can't

1733
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:46,880
be right don't be running the icy rain

1734
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:48,960
exactly he's getting down in the streets

1735
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:50,480
and

1736
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,200
that's right absolutely

1737
01:01:56,069 --> 01:01:54,960
were you together because i know that

1738
01:01:56,950 --> 01:01:56,079
gary you've disclosed one of the

1739
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:56,960
incidents that happened to you

1740
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:58,640
specifically with in regards to those

1741
01:02:02,630 --> 01:01:59,839
plates were you already there when this

1742
01:02:04,710 --> 01:02:02,640
happened bri or was that prior we were

1743
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:04,720
no we were together

1744
01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:07,599
in the uh we call it the lindell house

1745
01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:10,400
because it was on glendale avenue um so

1746
01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:13,680
yeah we both lived there um

1747
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:16,559
oh my cat is

1748
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:20,160
is waking up so he's he's his meower is

1749
01:02:27,029 --> 01:02:22,400
broken so it's

1750
01:02:30,710 --> 01:02:28,870
um

1751
01:02:32,069 --> 01:02:30,720
what were we saying oh we were asking in

1752
01:02:36,710 --> 01:02:32,079
regards to the plate there was an

1753
01:02:39,029 --> 01:02:36,720
incident oh yes yeah why don't you

1754
01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:39,039
say about the the plates yeah we had

1755
01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:40,160
this kitchen

1756
01:02:43,349 --> 01:02:41,440
and it was in the back and it was a

1757
01:02:45,950 --> 01:02:43,359
little tiny kitchen

1758
01:02:48,630 --> 01:02:45,960
and that the duplex was built in like

1759
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:48,640
1905 i think it was

1760
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,119
sorry yeah

1761
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,280
oh look at that

1762
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:55,280
look at that monster it was built in

1763
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:58,160
like 1905 and

1764
01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:00,480
it was an upper and down blue duplex not

1765
01:03:05,029 --> 01:03:02,880
like a side by side but we had this

1766
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:05,039
kitchen in the back and it was a weird

1767
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:06,640
it had like a door that would lead into

1768
01:03:10,309 --> 01:03:08,960
the multi into the basement where both

1769
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:10,319
units would get into and then there was

1770
01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:12,720
a door coming directly off the side

1771
01:03:15,829 --> 01:03:13,920
but there was a kitchen cabinet all the

1772
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:15,839
way inside and one day i just

1773
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:17,520
opened it up to get some kitchen some

1774
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:20,079
plates out and literally four or five

1775
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:22,880
plates right out into my face

1776
01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:24,559
and then smashed all over the ground

1777
01:03:26,950 --> 01:03:25,359
just

1778
01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:26,960
there's no way it could have done it all

1779
01:03:31,990 --> 01:03:29,200
i did was open the cabinet and they were

1780
01:03:33,349 --> 01:03:32,000
stacked perfectly fine like always

1781
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:33,359
but yet

1782
01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:35,280
but that wasn't the first time

1783
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:37,039
i had a kitchen cabinet come flying at

1784
01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:38,640
me either though so

1785
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:40,480
oh yeah that's yeah when you were

1786
01:03:43,510 --> 01:03:42,400
younger yeah when i was a kid we went up

1787
01:03:45,029 --> 01:03:43,520
and i

1788
01:03:46,870 --> 01:03:45,039
reached up just to open the kitchen

1789
01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:46,880
cabinet door to get some chips out and

1790
01:03:50,470 --> 01:03:48,880
the whole entire

1791
01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:50,480
cabinet on the wall

1792
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:52,559
came crashing down onto me

1793
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:54,960
so that's interesting and that was the

1794
01:03:57,589 --> 01:03:56,400
second time

1795
01:04:00,390 --> 01:03:57,599
yeah

1796
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:00,400
but i think who whatever

1797
01:04:05,270 --> 01:04:03,280
at the lindell house was doing it was

1798
01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:05,280
trying to hurt you

1799
01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:07,440
you know like

1800
01:04:11,029 --> 01:04:09,520
that place that was like a you know get

1801
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:11,039
out yeah

1802
01:04:15,190 --> 01:04:13,680
there was weird other weird weird stuff

1803
01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:15,200
yeah because you said at one point you

1804
01:04:20,870 --> 01:04:18,160
actually seen a full-on apparition right

1805
01:04:22,630 --> 01:04:20,880
yeah yeah we've seen the hat man

1806
01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:22,640
okay well that's what she thinks what i

1807
01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:24,720
think is the hat man well he has a hat

1808
01:04:29,109 --> 01:04:26,880
on and he looks like

1809
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:29,119
looks like the guy on the shirt like the

1810
01:04:33,829 --> 01:04:31,839
yeah the poltergeist or like children of

1811
01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:33,839
the the corn

1812
01:04:42,630 --> 01:04:40,630
and uh we were so we moved out

1813
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:42,640
and it was not a very peaceful move out

1814
01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:44,559
the landlord was that we rented for him

1815
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:46,559
was completely crazy and yeah he was

1816
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:49,440
very absentee landlord she was

1817
01:04:54,549 --> 01:04:51,440
an issue where the toilet above would

1818
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:54,559
leak down onto you every time they flush

1819
01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:55,839
and it happened

1820
01:05:00,069 --> 01:04:58,799
for months yeah and months yeah we would

1821
01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:00,079
call you'd be downstairs using the

1822
01:05:03,029 --> 01:05:01,680
bathroom you hear that flush upstairs

1823
01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:03,039
and you knew you had five seconds get

1824
01:05:05,430 --> 01:05:04,079
off toilet

1825
01:05:07,510 --> 01:05:05,440
oh my gosh

1826
01:05:10,230 --> 01:05:07,520
it's really you know blink or get off

1827
01:05:12,309 --> 01:05:10,240
the blank she was terrible and holy crap

1828
01:05:13,589 --> 01:05:12,319
literally

1829
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:13,599
finally

1830
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:17,200
want to live out in the country anymore

1831
01:05:20,829 --> 01:05:18,720
she wanted moving to the city and so she

1832
01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:20,839
showed up one day

1833
01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:24,559
and came in and opened up the garage and

1834
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:27,119
was very mad that we had stuff in the

1835
01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:28,960
garage and

1836
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:31,280
we were told you guys get the garage

1837
01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:33,920
yeah we we shared the garage with the

1838
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:35,520
people above us

1839
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:36,400
so

1840
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:38,319
between you know the upper and the

1841
01:05:40,789 --> 01:05:39,280
bottom

1842
01:05:43,510 --> 01:05:40,799
duplex we

1843
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:43,520
had our belongings in the you know

1844
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:45,839
garage like we were

1845
01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:47,920
we had a full shop going on in there too

1846
01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:53,029
working on stuff and blowing up stuff

1847
01:05:59,589 --> 01:05:53,839
and

1848
01:06:02,069 --> 01:05:59,599
she got man was like you guys got to

1849
01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:02,079
move out and we were like all right fine

1850
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:02,960
we'll

1851
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,990
uh-huh no and uh

1852
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:11,359
so we'll move out

1853
01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:12,720
so we're like yeah we'll move out and

1854
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:14,640
you know you guys don't have to

1855
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:16,240
so we found another place that was

1856
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:18,799
literally a block and a half away

1857
01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:20,079
and

1858
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,160
we moved there

1859
01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:23,920
and

1860
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:25,119
we were

1861
01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:27,680
we so we in between moving

1862
01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:30,079
we she went in even before the people

1863
01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:32,559
upstairs were moved out

1864
01:06:36,789 --> 01:06:34,960
thank you and uh thank you

1865
01:06:39,589 --> 01:06:36,799
mr dave's gun over there five dollars a

1866
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:41,589
and uh even before we moved out the

1867
01:06:44,870 --> 01:06:43,520
people upstairs moved out

1868
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:44,880
because she kicked them out too because

1869
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:46,960
she wanted to live upstairs

1870
01:06:51,190 --> 01:06:48,960
and even before they moved out she was

1871
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:51,200
told they had she hired a whole crew to

1872
01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:52,640
come in and renovate the place while

1873
01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:54,720
their stuff was still there

1874
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:56,319
and they came home one day and all their

1875
01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:57,839
stuff was piled in the middle of the

1876
01:07:01,349 --> 01:06:59,280
house and all the walls were getting

1877
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:01,359
painted and re-sanded and they're like

1878
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:05,280
god this is our stuff so stressful

1879
01:07:09,670 --> 01:07:06,880
and so you know that's completely

1880
01:07:10,870 --> 01:07:09,680
illegal and so if she comes in

1881
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:10,880
in the state of minnesota if the

1882
01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:12,720
landlord enters your place without being

1883
01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:14,480
okayed it's 150

1884
01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:16,880
they have to pay you every time

1885
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:18,880
and so i was like i'm gonna bust this

1886
01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:20,880
lady and so the trick was i had to leave

1887
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:23,200
belongings back at the house

1888
01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:25,039
just like i think we left like a table

1889
01:07:27,910 --> 01:07:25,760
and

1890
01:07:29,829 --> 01:07:27,920
just a couple of things there i left my

1891
01:07:30,710 --> 01:07:29,839
witchcraft books out

1892
01:07:35,029 --> 01:07:30,720
in the

1893
01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:35,039
freak her out

1894
01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:36,720
she's like they're bad i'm gonna scare

1895
01:07:41,190 --> 01:07:38,960
her but we'd leave just a few things

1896
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:41,200
there so we technically still occupy

1897
01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:43,119
yeah or belonging to there we were

1898
01:07:47,990 --> 01:07:45,760
paying rent so yeah i used to have like

1899
01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:48,000
i mean i love old things i'm an old

1900
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:51,119
person i guess but i'm an old soul yeah

1901
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:53,039
but so i used to drive my daily driver

1902
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:56,480
was a 64 chrysler newport big old boat

1903
01:08:00,069 --> 01:07:58,720
okay and i used to work in bloomington

1904
01:08:01,910 --> 01:08:00,079
which was like

1905
01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:01,920
15 20 miles south so i would take the

1906
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:03,359
bus so i didn't have to drive the boat

1907
01:08:06,390 --> 01:08:04,480
every day

1908
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:06,400
and i was taking the bus home and

1909
01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:07,920
walking home

1910
01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:09,920
from the bus stop i would pass our old

1911
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:11,839
place and so i'm walking down this is

1912
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:13,440
the middle of the day it was five

1913
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:14,720
o'clock in the afternoon in the summer

1914
01:08:18,390 --> 01:08:16,880
so it's still nice and bright

1915
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:18,400
i look over

1916
01:08:22,709 --> 01:08:20,960
and i see a dude wearing a flat brimmed

1917
01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:22,719
hat well what looks like a dude because

1918
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:24,640
it looks like it's lit from behind cause

1919
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:25,920
he's all black

1920
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:28,640
yeah and he's wearing a flat brim hat

1921
01:08:31,269 --> 01:08:29,839
and he's staring at me through the

1922
01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:31,279
window

1923
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:33,440
and i go s

1924
01:08:39,269 --> 01:08:36,560
sob there's somebody in our apartment

1925
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:39,279
and i ran across the frickin busy street

1926
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:41,839
as fast as i could crack that door open

1927
01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:45,440
with my key and just oh i got you

1928
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:47,920
and i look in and then run into

1929
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:49,359
no one there

1930
01:08:53,349 --> 01:08:51,359
and i go up the back stairs and i look

1931
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:53,359
and there's no one the whole entire

1932
01:08:58,550 --> 01:08:56,319
duplex is completely vacant

1933
01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:58,560
and i looked everywhere but there's nice

1934
01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:00,799
there was somebody there i saw him with

1935
01:09:04,829 --> 01:09:03,279
my two eyes i knew he was it was yeah in

1936
01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:04,839
the middle of the

1937
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,520
day you know wow

1938
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:09,440
yeah i mean what do you do i mean when

1939
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:10,960
you encount when you have something like

1940
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,960
that uh by the way tammy finnegan thank

1941
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:14,239
you for being here tonight she says 11

1942
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:15,199
11.

1943
01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:16,480
what do you do with that you know what

1944
01:09:19,829 --> 01:09:18,080
does the brain do in that moment to try

1945
01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:19,839
and rational that you know what just

1946
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:22,640
took place i mean did you tell bree i

1947
01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:23,759
mean what do you tell right because

1948
01:09:27,990 --> 01:09:25,839
nobody's there with you right

1949
01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:28,000
well and our old roommate that we lived

1950
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:31,359
with didn't believe in any of the

1951
01:09:36,789 --> 01:09:33,600
in ghosts or anything

1952
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:36,799
and it's like we were in our living room

1953
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:39,359
at that the haunted place and we were

1954
01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:41,199
all together and all of a sudden a

1955
01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:42,640
picture

1956
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:44,799
is knocked off the wall

1957
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:47,279
and falls on the ground and it's like

1958
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:49,440
i'm the one who's like oh my god and

1959
01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:51,759
stuff and he's like he doesn't believe

1960
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:53,839
in it he doesn't believe in it and

1961
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:55,760
everything it's like he doesn't believe

1962
01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:58,000
in it so it's like

1963
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:00,960
i don't know if he told our old roommate

1964
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:03,600
about the hat man or what he saw but he

1965
01:10:06,149 --> 01:10:04,800
told me

1966
01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:06,159
about it

1967
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,159
for sure

1968
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:10,400
yeah and then just a couple of weeks

1969
01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:12,320
later you saw him

1970
01:10:18,709 --> 01:10:15,199
yeah it was only a few days later that i

1971
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:18,719
saw yeah because um

1972
01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:20,159
it was

1973
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:21,120
i

1974
01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:25,520
and

1975
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:27,520
my chiropractor

1976
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:32,630
along the way oh thank you

1977
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:35,040
um and so

1978
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:37,360
because we were you know we're only a

1979
01:10:40,709 --> 01:10:38,320
block

1980
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:40,719
you know away from our old place

1981
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:42,800
um and

1982
01:10:50,229 --> 01:10:46,560
the chiropractor was a mile away so it's

1983
01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:50,239
very you know very close distance and so

1984
01:10:52,470 --> 01:10:51,120
um

1985
01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:52,480
we're

1986
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:54,960
going you know up a block and then to

1987
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:58,000
take a right on to lynndale avenue and

1988
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:00,159
you know that's what street we lived on

1989
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:04,320
and when we're at the stop sign um

1990
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:06,640
i'm i'm thinking i'm like am i ever

1991
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:09,120
gonna see the hat man

1992
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:09,920
and

1993
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:13,360
when you know soon enough you know gary

1994
01:11:19,110 --> 01:11:15,760
is driving and he takes a right so we're

1995
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:19,120
turning on to lindale avenue and then

1996
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:22,640
when we go past our old

1997
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:24,400
you know duplex

1998
01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:26,880
i thought i saw someone in there

1999
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:28,000
and

2000
01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:28,880
like

2001
01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:34,159
thought it was um

2002
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:39,430
a lamp

2003
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:41,360
because with the shape because of the

2004
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:43,280
shading of the the house the shape of it

2005
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:45,520
yes and um

2006
01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:46,320
the

2007
01:11:52,229 --> 01:11:49,120
sun room that we had in minneapolis it

2008
01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:54,790
blinds or shutters

2009
01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:56,960
where were they no they were yeah that's

2010
01:11:59,270 --> 01:11:57,679
like

2011
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:59,280
they were wood

2012
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:01,120
like venetian blinds almost but they

2013
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:03,120
only went halfway up during the lower

2014
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:03,920
half

2015
01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:06,960
and so that's where it's like if i was

2016
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:10,000
standing and i'm 5'7

2017
01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:12,239
um so when i'm standing

2018
01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:14,000
i'm you know

2019
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:14,960
i can

2020
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:16,320
still see

2021
01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:18,719
so it's like if i was to stand looking

2022
01:12:23,669 --> 01:12:20,960
outside onto the um

2023
01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:23,679
street you know people would see my head

2024
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:25,840
you know looking

2025
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,880
out

2026
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:28,159
and so

2027
01:12:34,229 --> 01:12:30,400
i knew there wasn't so i told him i said

2028
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:34,239
turn around turned around and

2029
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:36,880
only we you know he turned around and we

2030
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:39,199
went past the house again and there

2031
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:41,199
wasn't anything there

2032
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:42,000
so

2033
01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:43,520
like there wasn't

2034
01:12:50,149 --> 01:12:44,480
and

2035
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:50,159
it was like i saw it when my head was

2036
01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:52,000
kind of turned away it's like i still

2037
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:53,520
know what i saw

2038
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:55,040
and it still was

2039
01:13:03,510 --> 01:12:58,560
it was solid um it was solid black

2040
01:13:08,229 --> 01:13:05,270
you know see-through

2041
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:08,239
ghost i've never seen okay here i've

2042
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:09,760
never seen

2043
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:14,159
a ghost before so that was the first

2044
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:16,239
thing i've ever seen

2045
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:17,280
and

2046
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:19,360
i did

2047
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:20,880
think about it

2048
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:23,520
right before it happened to so it's like

2049
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:25,840
i know people have like premonitions but

2050
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:27,280
it's like i've never heard of other

2051
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,760
people having premonitions of seeing an

2052
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:31,280
entity or

2053
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:32,800
a ghost or something but that's what

2054
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:35,840
happened to me so um

2055
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:38,400
yeah it was definitely interesting and

2056
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:39,840
so

2057
01:13:46,229 --> 01:13:43,760
that yeah that place there's a lot of

2058
01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:46,239
a lot of things happen there and i think

2059
01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:50,159
it was because that place had a lot of

2060
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:51,440
trauma

2061
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:54,480
and a lot of bad things maybe

2062
01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:55,280
with

2063
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:58,480
it being in the landlord's family um

2064
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:00,159
because that's the thing if she's you

2065
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:02,159
know acting a certain way

2066
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:04,960
um takes advantage of her tenants you

2067
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:08,400
know people get up and leave in

2068
01:14:13,430 --> 01:14:12,000
not a good way so it's like all that

2069
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:13,440
energy

2070
01:14:17,990 --> 01:14:15,760
i believe we'll stay there

2071
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:18,000
and um

2072
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:19,360
in the chat

2073
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:20,719
we just noticed the ones we're in the

2074
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:22,000
chat those

2075
01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:23,679
over there

2076
01:14:29,430 --> 01:14:26,159
and i love them so

2077
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:29,440
i wanted to try dowsing rods

2078
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:32,719
when we were at that the the lindell

2079
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:36,159
house and so we took a wire you know a

2080
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:37,440
coat hanger

2081
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:39,360
and cut it in half

2082
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:41,120
and now i know

2083
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:43,199
that if you do that make sure to put

2084
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:45,199
something on the end of it because it's

2085
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:46,400
sharp

2086
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:47,440
and so

2087
01:14:52,390 --> 01:14:50,560
i was going like i was using it

2088
01:14:53,510 --> 01:14:52,400
and then that's when

2089
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:53,520
i thought

2090
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:55,360
like am i gonna

2091
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:57,440
are these gonna work

2092
01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:59,120
and then all of a sudden

2093
01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:00,320
like it

2094
01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:04,320
you know i'm holding it in my hand

2095
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:06,640
and then all of a sudden it totally like

2096
01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:08,480
it spins

2097
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:10,880
and then the end of the

2098
01:15:15,510 --> 01:15:12,719
the end of it

2099
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:15,520
like because it when it spun fast

2100
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:17,280
it scratched me

2101
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:18,719
and so

2102
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:21,600
i don't think the dowsing does anything

2103
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:24,000
with electrical like i think it's only

2104
01:15:28,870 --> 01:15:27,520
water right is what it works

2105
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:28,880
i'd have to

2106
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:32,800
again

2107
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:34,400
i don't know if it's

2108
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:36,400
because it was by the tv

2109
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:38,800
and the like electrical field made it do

2110
01:15:42,790 --> 01:15:41,360
that but not that strong like they yeah

2111
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:42,800
they say they would take a lot they just

2112
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:44,080
kind of

2113
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:46,880
yeah so right and that's the thing where

2114
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:48,560
it wasn't until

2115
01:15:51,350 --> 01:15:50,560
a month or two ago that i found out that

2116
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:51,360
he

2117
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:52,480
told me

2118
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:54,800
i was like is it

2119
01:15:58,790 --> 01:15:56,480
did it do that just because it was by

2120
01:16:01,350 --> 01:15:58,800
the tv and he's like yeah and then i

2121
01:16:03,110 --> 01:16:01,360
found out that i'm like so you

2122
01:16:05,830 --> 01:16:03,120
told me years ago

2123
01:16:07,669 --> 01:16:05,840
that it was that but

2124
01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:07,679
it's not the case i was like did you

2125
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:10,159
tell me that not to freak me out and

2126
01:16:12,790 --> 01:16:11,520
he's like yeah

2127
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:12,800
that's what timmy's saying because i

2128
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:14,560
think it depends on who is dowsing and

2129
01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:16,320
like brown dot flop said it was holy

2130
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:18,640
crap basically i mean like

2131
01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:19,600
i

2132
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:54,159
got

2133
01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:57,360
like i've always i had never had a tarot

2134
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:00,080
reading before um because being raised

2135
01:17:04,790 --> 01:17:02,880
up or religious it's

2136
01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:04,800
like i

2137
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:07,360
couldn't watch harry potter growing up

2138
01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:10,719
that type of like so any

2139
01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:13,520
tarot reading and all that is

2140
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:15,679
still you know

2141
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:16,640
bad

2142
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:19,520
you know um and so

2143
01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:22,800
i've always been open to this side and

2144
01:17:28,709 --> 01:17:26,000
now it's like i had such an urge

2145
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:28,719
to get a tarot reading and to

2146
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:31,120
specifically have it be

2147
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:35,520
a past life because um like there's twin

2148
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:38,719
twin flames twin souls like i definitely

2149
01:17:42,830 --> 01:17:41,120
like we i would say that we fit into

2150
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:42,840
that category

2151
01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:45,840
um and the

2152
01:17:50,630 --> 01:17:48,560
the tarot reader well what

2153
01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:50,640
to start off with

2154
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:51,520
um

2155
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:53,679
when we were getting out of the car in

2156
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:56,320
my head i thought well what if

2157
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:59,920
he says i was a witch in a past life and

2158
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:01,199
so

2159
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:05,520
we both had our separate readings um

2160
01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:06,400
and

2161
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:09,840
so i specifically wanted

2162
01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:13,280
to know about a clue about past life

2163
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:15,280
because something

2164
01:18:21,990 --> 01:18:18,640
you know something was calling

2165
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:22,000
that i specifically go and get a card

2166
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:23,440
reading

2167
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:25,199
about this manner

2168
01:18:29,110 --> 01:18:26,480
and so

2169
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:29,120
um gary went after

2170
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:31,360
um he read mine

2171
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:33,120
and it was

2172
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:35,760
yeah it's it's kind of a crazy kind of

2173
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:38,640
crazy story but um

2174
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:43,440
to sum it up uh he said that we

2175
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:45,280
um have had

2176
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:46,960
past lives

2177
01:18:51,189 --> 01:18:49,120
together

2178
01:18:52,229 --> 01:18:51,199
um i've had another

2179
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:52,239
medium

2180
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:55,440
tell me recently that we had uh past

2181
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:58,640
lives together and this was

2182
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:59,520
her

2183
01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:01,440
like just telling me

2184
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:04,080
not necessarily hearing the story and

2185
01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:05,679
saying oh yeah i

2186
01:19:10,310 --> 01:19:07,840
dutted up but she said that we were

2187
01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:10,320
together

2188
01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:12,159
uh

2189
01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:16,719
two marriages ago so i had i or three so

2190
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:19,360
i had two marriages in between

2191
01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:20,560
um

2192
01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:25,920
week

2193
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:26,640
so

2194
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:28,000
if i'm gonna ask a question to give a

2195
01:19:30,149 --> 01:19:29,280
little [\h__\h] a little more clarity on

2196
01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:30,159
this because we might have a listener

2197
01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:31,760
out there who's listening whoa wait a

2198
01:19:35,669 --> 01:19:33,920
second here what is this past life stuff

2199
01:19:37,750 --> 01:19:35,679
we're talking about but leading up to

2200
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:37,760
that had either of you and i guess we'll

2201
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:39,120
start with you bri

2202
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:42,640
had any memories dreams inclinations of

2203
01:19:48,709 --> 01:19:45,679
a past life memory coming through

2204
01:19:48,719 --> 01:19:52,390
i guess

2205
01:19:57,030 --> 01:19:54,790
not necessarily

2206
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:57,040
um

2207
01:20:01,110 --> 01:19:58,239
but

2208
01:20:04,310 --> 01:20:01,120
just like an urge

2209
01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:04,320
to have someone tell me what they think

2210
01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:06,080
i was so i could

2211
01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:08,320
start doing research

2212
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:11,920
so it was like almost like i

2213
01:20:17,350 --> 01:20:14,159
needed

2214
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:19,590
have that information

2215
01:20:25,270 --> 01:20:23,360
and when he did tell me um he the tarot

2216
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:25,280
reader did say that i was a witch in a

2217
01:20:30,709 --> 01:20:27,360
past life

2218
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:30,719
um and when he told me that i

2219
01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:32,480
started crying

2220
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:35,760
like tearing up and shaking so

2221
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:41,510
uh when that happens too when people

2222
01:20:45,350 --> 01:20:43,920
are overcome with emotion

2223
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:45,360
like it's

2224
01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:48,000
it's like it was

2225
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:52,470
it was a confirmation

2226
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:54,560
kind of like

2227
01:20:58,709 --> 01:20:56,400
and especially like

2228
01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:58,719
like i love i've always loved past life

2229
01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:00,400
stuff like even when i was a kid even

2230
01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:02,080
when i was younger you know it's like

2231
01:21:05,430 --> 01:21:04,080
i've always been drawn to these kind of

2232
01:21:07,030 --> 01:21:05,440
subjects

2233
01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:07,040
but um

2234
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:09,120
i don't it's not necessarily like i

2235
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:11,440
remember things but you know when i was

2236
01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:12,880
younger

2237
01:21:18,550 --> 01:21:15,120
like when i was over at my grandma

2238
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:18,560
lopez's house like she had a a washboard

2239
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:20,320
and so it's like what little

2240
01:21:25,270 --> 01:21:22,960
five-year-old wants to use a washboard

2241
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:25,280
where it's like these are certain things

2242
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:27,760
that it's like they could very well be

2243
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:29,280
past life

2244
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:31,199
residual memories

2245
01:21:33,110 --> 01:21:32,000
um

2246
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:33,120
and so

2247
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:36,960
i've always been an old soul i've always

2248
01:21:42,149 --> 01:21:38,800
hung out with my

2249
01:21:44,470 --> 01:21:42,159
you know grandparents or my mom and dad

2250
01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:44,480
i never got to gravitate you know i

2251
01:21:47,910 --> 01:21:45,520
never

2252
01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:47,920
resonated with any of the kids my age i

2253
01:21:50,629 --> 01:21:48,800
never

2254
01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:50,639
got along with them really so i've

2255
01:21:53,830 --> 01:21:51,520
always

2256
01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:53,840
and we're eight years apart so it's like

2257
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:56,480
i i date older um

2258
01:22:00,390 --> 01:21:58,800
so it's like i've always

2259
01:22:01,270 --> 01:22:00,400
and that's where it's like when you look

2260
01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:01,280
up

2261
01:22:06,390 --> 01:22:03,040
the the you know

2262
01:22:08,550 --> 01:22:06,400
signs of past lives um and do research

2263
01:22:09,830 --> 01:22:08,560
it's like all the things that were just

2264
01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:09,840
like

2265
01:22:14,310 --> 01:22:12,080
you know hitting a nail on the head and

2266
01:22:17,110 --> 01:22:14,320
so being told

2267
01:22:20,229 --> 01:22:17,120
that i was a witch in a past life and

2268
01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:20,239
having such a genuine emotional reaction

2269
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:22,560
because i'm not emotional like that i

2270
01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:23,760
don't

2271
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:27,760
have that quick of a

2272
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:30,880
you know reaction but

2273
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:36,870
the healing process can happen

2274
01:22:41,430 --> 01:22:39,520
when people like when younger kids

2275
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:41,440
you know say if they have past life

2276
01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:43,920
memories of being on the titanic

2277
01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:47,679
or anything else um once they

2278
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:50,480
find out you know once they

2279
01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:53,840
kind of figure out that they had a past

2280
01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:54,800
life

2281
01:23:02,070 --> 01:22:57,600
it's like then they can go on and heal

2282
01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:02,080
so i so that reaction was

2283
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:03,440
me

2284
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:05,679
being validated that

2285
01:23:11,590 --> 01:23:08,080
that's what i wasn't a past life

2286
01:23:13,990 --> 01:23:11,600
yeah if that makes sense it does it does

2287
01:23:15,510 --> 01:23:14,000
now for yourself gary did you did you

2288
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:15,520
same question i posed to bree did you

2289
01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:18,000
have some sort of inclination or

2290
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:19,520
anything that indicated you that you

2291
01:23:24,229 --> 01:23:22,080
might have had in the life cycle

2292
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:24,239
not a whole lot i guess just

2293
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:26,639
weird thoughts or weird you know that

2294
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:29,760
weird feeling of deja vu

2295
01:23:34,070 --> 01:23:31,360
when you go to a place and it's like

2296
01:23:36,229 --> 01:23:34,080
that's weird oh you have that trauma

2297
01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:36,239
patch yeah i have a weird trauma pat i

2298
01:23:39,030 --> 01:23:37,760
had a weird trial patch in the back of

2299
01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:39,040
my head before the rest of it started

2300
01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:40,480
going great

2301
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:44,719
but i started going gray when i was 18.

2302
01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:46,239
so yeah that was

2303
01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:47,760
i off when i was

2304
01:23:52,790 --> 01:23:49,760
35 i think i was

2305
01:23:54,950 --> 01:23:52,800
pretty gray and i'm only 42 now so

2306
01:23:57,110 --> 01:23:54,960
i'm way grey

2307
01:23:59,350 --> 01:23:57,120
i know it's because of me

2308
01:24:02,070 --> 01:23:59,360
you didn't lose he didn't lose the hair

2309
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:02,080
he just lost the color hey in his hair i

2310
01:24:05,030 --> 01:24:03,600
like the song pepper that's the way to

2311
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:05,040
do it my wife i i joke with it because

2312
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:06,159
she says all the time because i made the

2313
01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:07,360
decision i'm like babe [\h__\h] i would have

2314
01:24:10,709 --> 01:24:08,800
shaved it off a while ago

2315
01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:10,719
for her hanging onto it but that's the

2316
01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:11,840
only thing she's like i wouldn't she was

2317
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:13,040
like i was kind of looking forward to

2318
01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:14,960
the salt and pepper you know face i was

2319
01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:16,800
like well we can give you some like red

2320
01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:19,120
and white one day whenever that

2321
01:24:23,430 --> 01:24:20,800
whenever that phase starts we'll let

2322
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:23,440
that happen naturally so

2323
01:24:27,030 --> 01:24:25,280
now okay so with this let's dig into

2324
01:24:28,470 --> 01:24:27,040
this a little bit then because brie i

2325
01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:28,480
could be mistaken i don't know if this

2326
01:24:32,870 --> 01:24:30,880
came out in your guys uh i guess we

2327
01:24:34,390 --> 01:24:32,880
could say past life reading here but i

2328
01:24:36,550 --> 01:24:34,400
believe you've referenced at one point

2329
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,560
that you had some sort of a memory or it

2330
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:38,800
came out from this reading

2331
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:40,320
of a picture of a female and you were

2332
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:42,000
flying a plane does any of that sound

2333
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:45,440
familiar to you oh um so that's when i

2334
01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:47,920
did uh past life

2335
01:24:51,990 --> 01:24:50,320
guided meditation

2336
01:24:53,350 --> 01:24:52,000
and so

2337
01:25:16,470 --> 01:24:53,360
i

2338
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:16,480
everyone that serves but

2339
01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:18,560
to me it's like

2340
01:25:23,110 --> 01:25:20,639
i and also it's like people that were in

2341
01:25:25,590 --> 01:25:23,120
the civil war you know if they were in

2342
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:25,600
gettysburg in a past life they could be

2343
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:28,320
someone who is so against the idea of

2344
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:31,600
war so it's like that does kind of align

2345
01:25:35,189 --> 01:25:33,360
where i

2346
01:25:38,629 --> 01:25:35,199
like i don't like heights

2347
01:25:40,470 --> 01:25:38,639
um and so by doing the guided past life

2348
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:40,480
meditation

2349
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:42,960
like it's like it walks you down

2350
01:25:47,110 --> 01:25:45,520
a hallway and you open up

2351
01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:47,120
doors and then

2352
01:25:52,070 --> 01:25:50,000
you're shown like a scene and so one of

2353
01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:52,080
the things that i was shown

2354
01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:52,960
was

2355
01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:04,229
i guess a military plane like in maybe

2356
01:26:08,709 --> 01:26:07,189
i don't know in the 50s or something is

2357
01:26:10,229 --> 01:26:08,719
the the

2358
01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:10,239
from what

2359
01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:11,679
i

2360
01:26:22,390 --> 01:26:18,320
the plane and

2361
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:22,400
on the dashboard i there was a vintage

2362
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:25,920
picture of a woman um

2363
01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:27,360
kind of like where

2364
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:28,560
you know

2365
01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:31,280
in the in those war movies you see

2366
01:26:36,629 --> 01:26:34,239
you know how they had pictures of their

2367
01:26:38,149 --> 01:26:36,639
their wives and girlfriends

2368
01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:38,159
um so

2369
01:26:44,149 --> 01:26:40,080
that's kind of

2370
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:44,159
and i took japanese in high school

2371
01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:47,040
and i picked it up like that

2372
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:48,560
whereas

2373
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:51,679
trying to learn spanish i couldn't get

2374
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:54,960
to save my life and my mom's mexican and

2375
01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:55,130
so

2376
01:26:59,510 --> 01:26:56,480
[Laughter]

2377
01:27:03,189 --> 01:26:59,520
i got japanese like that and so it's

2378
01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:03,199
like i don't know if

2379
01:27:11,990 --> 01:27:06,400
i had a past life in japan

2380
01:27:16,709 --> 01:27:13,910
maybe i

2381
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:16,719
had to learn japanese because i was on

2382
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:19,920
our side yeah you know so it's like

2383
01:27:23,510 --> 01:27:20,960
there's

2384
01:27:27,590 --> 01:27:23,520
don't

2385
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:27,600
but i

2386
01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:30,950
you know

2387
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:33,120
it's fun because brown's outflop says so

2388
01:27:36,629 --> 01:27:35,040
many similarities bree it is eerie when

2389
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:36,639
i listen to you both and just a little

2390
01:27:40,709 --> 01:27:38,480
bit further down here she mentioned too

2391
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:40,719
over here i can totally to relate to

2392
01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:43,440
what you were saying so much so crazy

2393
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:46,719
uh and that is a lot i mean i imagine

2394
01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:48,320
going through that i mean gary for

2395
01:27:51,110 --> 01:27:49,600
yourself since you you weren't super

2396
01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:51,120
familiar with it when it when this

2397
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:52,960
happened i mean what did what did they

2398
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:54,719
reveal about you or what was your i

2399
01:27:58,629 --> 01:27:56,719
guess perhaps glimpse into the past

2400
01:28:00,709 --> 01:27:58,639
there

2401
01:28:03,669 --> 01:28:00,719
oh they what was it

2402
01:28:06,709 --> 01:28:03,679
the guy said that i

2403
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:06,719
had to do the work yeah of the king

2404
01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:08,639
i was he said i could have either been

2405
01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:10,560
an executioner

2406
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:12,320
or a

2407
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:14,320
like a soldier but mostly in this

2408
01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:17,040
executionery things and i didn't like it

2409
01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:18,800
and you had to do the work

2410
01:28:22,070 --> 01:28:20,560
i just wow yeah that's a weird thing for

2411
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:22,080
someone to be like yeah

2412
01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:24,400
feeling like you killed a lot of people

2413
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:26,239
but you were forced to do it well and

2414
01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:28,080
that's the thing where he's like he's a

2415
01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:30,960
libra and like he looks like a biker but

2416
01:28:38,470 --> 01:28:31,920
he

2417
01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:38,480
like

2418
01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:41,600
physical fights so he doesn't he would

2419
01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:45,280
rather not not get in confrontation

2420
01:28:47,189 --> 01:28:46,080
um

2421
01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:47,199
and so

2422
01:28:52,870 --> 01:28:49,840
if he led that in a past life that would

2423
01:28:54,310 --> 01:28:52,880
make sense why he is the way he is in

2424
01:28:55,590 --> 01:28:54,320
this life

2425
01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:55,600
hmm

2426
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:57,440
that makes sense i mean john said that

2427
01:29:01,910 --> 01:28:58,560
often and you know on the show that we

2428
01:29:03,430 --> 01:29:01,920
do over there the after hours in sr that

2429
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:03,440
you know one of the things he said a lot

2430
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:06,080
is that his perception on this we are

2431
01:29:10,550 --> 01:29:08,080
living these life cycles

2432
01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:10,560
from every possible angle and perhaps

2433
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:13,360
that is the case i don't know um but i

2434
01:29:17,590 --> 01:29:14,800
guess it could make sense if you had a

2435
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:17,600
very traumatic or let's say aggressive

2436
01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:18,880
lifestyle that you were forced to live

2437
01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:20,320
why you would be very

2438
01:29:24,950 --> 01:29:23,120
um opposed to that to that in this

2439
01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:24,960
current life you know

2440
01:29:28,149 --> 01:29:26,719
but so yeah

2441
01:29:29,350 --> 01:29:28,159
with that though there was a little bit

2442
01:29:31,110 --> 01:29:29,360
more because they felt that there was a

2443
01:29:32,310 --> 01:29:31,120
possibility that you guys had actually i

2444
01:29:33,350 --> 01:29:32,320
mean you know you already referenced

2445
01:29:36,149 --> 01:29:33,360
this breed but they felt that you guys

2446
01:29:38,229 --> 01:29:36,159
had been in a relationship prior perhaps

2447
01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:38,239
in a previous life was that something

2448
01:29:42,629 --> 01:29:39,840
that she brought up or was the second

2449
01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:42,639
one that did the reading um it the one

2450
01:29:48,470 --> 01:29:45,520
that it was just a medium

2451
01:29:51,030 --> 01:29:48,480
just kind of got some readings and or

2452
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:51,040
feelings uh when we were just hanging

2453
01:29:55,189 --> 01:29:52,880
out so she told me

2454
01:29:56,790 --> 01:29:55,199
um you know so it wasn't something

2455
01:29:59,110 --> 01:29:56,800
scheduling a meeting it was just

2456
01:30:00,629 --> 01:29:59,120
something that she was picking up on

2457
01:30:01,910 --> 01:30:00,639
um

2458
01:30:02,790 --> 01:30:01,920
and so

2459
01:30:07,830 --> 01:30:02,800
we were

2460
01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:07,840
you know that i had two marriages in

2461
01:30:12,310 --> 01:30:08,960
between

2462
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:12,320
um but the tarot reader said that i was

2463
01:30:17,910 --> 01:30:15,280
when i was away

2464
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:17,920
when i was a witch it was i think the

2465
01:30:25,270 --> 01:30:21,760
15th or 16th century

2466
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:25,280
and so if he was an executioner

2467
01:30:29,430 --> 01:30:27,120
around that time

2468
01:30:31,669 --> 01:30:29,440
i say what if he was

2469
01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:31,679
what if i was a witch and he was my

2470
01:30:40,629 --> 01:30:37,030
i say that

2471
01:30:43,350 --> 01:30:40,639
in jest now because it's

2472
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:43,360
i'm like oh well you killed me in a past

2473
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:45,760
life can you do this can you

2474
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:48,880
you know i i i joke around about it and

2475
01:30:53,530 --> 01:30:52,239
so it's like who knows if it's

2476
01:30:54,870 --> 01:30:53,540
it's just what

2477
01:30:59,510 --> 01:30:54,880
[Laughter]

2478
01:31:01,990 --> 01:30:59,520
one tarot card card reader

2479
01:31:04,870 --> 01:31:02,000
you know is telling us and so i don't

2480
01:31:07,430 --> 01:31:04,880
have any doubt that

2481
01:31:08,950 --> 01:31:07,440
you know i know that we were together in

2482
01:31:11,669 --> 01:31:08,960
a past life

2483
01:31:13,629 --> 01:31:11,679
it's like i just don't know how but

2484
01:31:15,430 --> 01:31:13,639
when there's so many like

2485
01:31:17,270 --> 01:31:15,440
synchronicities and

2486
01:31:20,149 --> 01:31:17,280
you know

2487
01:31:24,149 --> 01:31:20,159
we were always around each other

2488
01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:24,159
but we never met and so it's like

2489
01:31:27,590 --> 01:31:25,760
i

2490
01:31:29,350 --> 01:31:27,600
had to um

2491
01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:29,360
reincarnate

2492
01:31:32,149 --> 01:31:30,880
at a faster

2493
01:31:34,470 --> 01:31:32,159
um

2494
01:31:37,350 --> 01:31:34,480
at a faster rate and so i have a lot of

2495
01:31:41,189 --> 01:31:37,360
chronic pain that's invisible

2496
01:31:42,629 --> 01:31:41,199
um and so in this lifetime i have a lot

2497
01:31:44,629 --> 01:31:42,639
of pain

2498
01:31:47,189 --> 01:31:44,639
and so

2499
01:31:49,830 --> 01:31:47,199
when you have a lot of conditions in

2500
01:31:51,910 --> 01:31:49,840
your body that could be a sign that you

2501
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:51,920
um

2502
01:31:59,990 --> 01:31:57,360
you didn't heal there wasn't enough time

2503
01:32:01,910 --> 01:32:00,000
to be healed and so

2504
01:32:03,110 --> 01:32:01,920
um

2505
01:32:05,110 --> 01:32:03,120
yeah that's

2506
01:32:08,149 --> 01:32:05,120
well and then after we left what you saw

2507
01:32:09,350 --> 01:32:08,159
oh yes and so

2508
01:32:12,070 --> 01:32:09,360
the

2509
01:32:13,030 --> 01:32:12,080
metaphysical shop we went to was only

2510
01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:13,040
maybe

2511
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:15,520
less than two miles away from

2512
01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:18,480
our the haunted duplex in minneapolis

2513
01:32:22,149 --> 01:32:20,080
and so

2514
01:32:23,110 --> 01:32:22,159
the way we

2515
01:32:24,470 --> 01:32:23,120
went

2516
01:32:26,870 --> 01:32:24,480
um

2517
01:32:28,310 --> 01:32:26,880
back home was a different way that we

2518
01:32:29,910 --> 01:32:28,320
normally take

2519
01:32:33,430 --> 01:32:29,920
and so

2520
01:32:36,790 --> 01:32:33,440
on the license plate it said

2521
01:32:39,669 --> 01:32:36,800
soul mate on it and so the car right in

2522
01:32:42,550 --> 01:32:39,679
front of us at the first stoplight yes

2523
01:32:45,270 --> 01:32:42,560
and so a common like license plate to

2524
01:32:47,030 --> 01:32:45,280
just have out there's only one

2525
01:32:49,350 --> 01:32:47,040
you know when you have a customized

2526
01:32:50,310 --> 01:32:49,360
plate it there's only one in the state

2527
01:32:52,830 --> 01:32:50,320
for

2528
01:32:55,830 --> 01:32:52,840
a specific reason you know

2529
01:32:57,590 --> 01:32:55,840
um and

2530
01:32:59,590 --> 01:32:57,600
so

2531
01:33:03,430 --> 01:32:59,600
that's once again

2532
01:33:05,430 --> 01:33:03,440
i don't think it's a coincidence when

2533
01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:05,440
you know it's like

2534
01:33:09,430 --> 01:33:07,760
there's just too many

2535
01:33:10,709 --> 01:33:09,440
you know synchronicities there's just

2536
01:33:12,709 --> 01:33:10,719
too many

2537
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:12,719
things that

2538
01:33:16,629 --> 01:33:15,040
kind of line up but

2539
01:33:18,629 --> 01:33:16,639
especially when

2540
01:33:21,350 --> 01:33:18,639
we take a different way home

2541
01:33:24,310 --> 01:33:21,360
and i was talking skeptical

2542
01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:24,320
yeah that's the thing or i'm

2543
01:33:31,910 --> 01:33:27,760
i'm very much open-minded but i do have

2544
01:33:34,390 --> 01:33:31,920
a logical side first that i try to

2545
01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:34,400
figure out if i can recreate something

2546
01:33:38,629 --> 01:33:37,040
if something you know i think a ghost in

2547
01:33:40,790 --> 01:33:38,639
something i try to see if i can do it

2548
01:33:42,550 --> 01:33:40,800
first so i don't freak myself out you

2549
01:33:44,550 --> 01:33:42,560
know i can yeah

2550
01:33:46,390 --> 01:33:44,560
so you were talking skeptical and we

2551
01:33:48,310 --> 01:33:46,400
pulled up and i go

2552
01:33:50,550 --> 01:33:48,320
look at the car in front of us and it

2553
01:33:53,270 --> 01:33:50,560
was soul soulmates right on it it was

2554
01:33:55,750 --> 01:33:53,280
crazy that is pretty amazing

2555
01:33:58,390 --> 01:33:55,760
yeah and so it's like you can't deny

2556
01:34:00,070 --> 01:33:58,400
that and you can't make that up

2557
01:34:02,709 --> 01:34:00,080
when

2558
01:34:05,590 --> 01:34:02,719
we're talking about or just come from

2559
01:34:08,550 --> 01:34:05,600
past life reading and get all this

2560
01:34:09,990 --> 01:34:08,560
information you know

2561
01:34:12,390 --> 01:34:10,000
mr crowley

2562
01:34:14,550 --> 01:34:12,400
that is true that is true

2563
01:34:17,110 --> 01:34:14,560
um

2564
01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:17,120
i love you guys in the chat are we riled

2565
01:34:22,390 --> 01:34:19,760
up over there tonight we love you guys

2566
01:34:25,350 --> 01:34:22,400
something in the in the night i know

2567
01:34:26,709 --> 01:34:25,360
something in that it's getting there so

2568
01:34:28,229 --> 01:34:26,719
really quick thing too i would love to

2569
01:34:29,510 --> 01:34:28,239
ask you guys on this because i see all

2570
01:34:31,110 --> 01:34:29,520
the different adventures that the two of

2571
01:34:33,270 --> 01:34:31,120
you have taken you guys have traveled

2572
01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:33,280
and you've done a lot of uh just

2573
01:34:36,310 --> 01:34:35,040
different adventures together and it

2574
01:34:38,390 --> 01:34:36,320
seems like one of your passions seemed

2575
01:34:39,430 --> 01:34:38,400
to be going out looking for the big man

2576
01:34:41,590 --> 01:34:39,440
himself

2577
01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:41,600
is that just always been a lifelong

2578
01:34:45,590 --> 01:34:43,760
passion project or have you either ever

2579
01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:45,600
had an encounter with with the elusive

2580
01:34:48,790 --> 01:34:47,280
bigfoot

2581
01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:48,800
um i don't

2582
01:34:53,830 --> 01:34:50,639
like i've always it's always like

2583
01:34:55,030 --> 01:34:53,840
cryptid so i'm always interested

2584
01:35:04,149 --> 01:34:55,040
in

2585
01:35:06,709 --> 01:35:04,159
has

2586
01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:06,719
been camping more and

2587
01:35:13,030 --> 01:35:09,119
especially when you were in

2588
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:13,040
california yeah yeah my dad was a

2589
01:35:18,629 --> 01:35:15,920
he made my dad was a man of many talents

2590
01:35:21,350 --> 01:35:18,639
kind of like i am and he

2591
01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:21,360
one of his like so he'd sell firewoods

2592
01:35:24,390 --> 01:35:23,040
we'd go out and we cut firewood all day

2593
01:35:26,629 --> 01:35:24,400
and then he used to

2594
01:35:28,709 --> 01:35:26,639
guide people backpacking because he was

2595
01:35:30,709 --> 01:35:28,719
big time in the woods and hiking and if

2596
01:35:31,669 --> 01:35:30,719
they didn't tip him enough

2597
01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:31,679
he would

2598
01:35:37,669 --> 01:35:36,400
you'd put extra stuff inside his back

2599
01:35:49,030 --> 01:35:37,679
their backpacks when they weren't

2600
01:35:54,229 --> 01:35:51,430
oh yeah sunny

2601
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:54,239
um but yeah so your father he's out here

2602
01:35:56,390 --> 01:35:55,440
and if these people don't tip and

2603
01:35:57,669 --> 01:35:56,400
they're going to be carrying some extra

2604
01:36:00,070 --> 01:35:57,679
weight they're going to get some leg

2605
01:36:02,070 --> 01:36:00,080
muscles today

2606
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:02,080
but yeah he did that his whole life he's

2607
01:36:06,310 --> 01:36:04,080
always worked that kind of stuff and

2608
01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:06,320
but no we used to so we spent

2609
01:36:12,149 --> 01:36:09,040
like my whole childhood was outside in

2610
01:36:14,950 --> 01:36:12,159
the woods in the desert in wherever we'd

2611
01:36:18,950 --> 01:36:14,960
be all throughout the sierra nevadas

2612
01:36:22,149 --> 01:36:18,960
and then my grandpa he was a hot rod guy

2613
01:36:24,870 --> 01:36:22,159
and he used to race drag boats and so we

2614
01:36:27,430 --> 01:36:24,880
had this big flat bottom

2615
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:27,440
or a wooden mahogany flat bottom drag

2616
01:36:29,910 --> 01:36:28,560
boat

2617
01:36:33,030 --> 01:36:29,920
and

2618
01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:33,040
it just sounds like ron burgundy style

2619
01:36:37,590 --> 01:36:35,520
they had a ford 460 in the back

2620
01:36:39,430 --> 01:36:37,600
straight headers coming out you could

2621
01:36:41,590 --> 01:36:39,440
shoot fire right out of the exhaust and

2622
01:36:43,990 --> 01:36:41,600
it could go 120 miles an hour across the

2623
01:36:49,189 --> 01:36:46,470
it was nuts and my grandpa used to race

2624
01:36:51,270 --> 01:36:49,199
it and he was a skinny little guy and

2625
01:36:53,750 --> 01:36:51,280
there'd just be he'd be white knuckling

2626
01:36:55,590 --> 01:36:53,760
that steering wheel like a maniac your

2627
01:36:58,390 --> 01:36:55,600
grandpa with the one eye yep my grandpa

2628
01:37:02,709 --> 01:36:58,400
with one eye the one i'm sorry

2629
01:37:04,709 --> 01:37:02,719
i forget i forget that i don't

2630
01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:04,719
this grandpa has a

2631
01:37:19,189 --> 01:37:16,070
he lost it racing a

2632
01:37:21,109 --> 01:37:19,199
hot rod through mulholland drive

2633
01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:21,119
and rolled it off a cliff and then it

2634
01:37:26,830 --> 01:37:23,280
killed its brother and it put a shard of

2635
01:37:29,669 --> 01:37:26,840
glass through his eye that was in like

2636
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:29,679
1944 or something like that dang

2637
01:37:33,350 --> 01:37:31,360
yeah he didn't get to go to world war

2638
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:33,360
two because he had one eye

2639
01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:36,719
oh wow and uh crazy how that can like do

2640
01:37:39,350 --> 01:37:37,920
you ever think about us being here and

2641
01:37:42,070 --> 01:37:39,360
not being here like that it's a great

2642
01:37:44,870 --> 01:37:42,080
coincidence it's crazy yeah

2643
01:37:46,709 --> 01:37:44,880
but yeah so we would take the boats and

2644
01:37:48,550 --> 01:37:46,719
his favorite lake to take that thing up

2645
01:37:50,470 --> 01:37:48,560
to was lake trinity

2646
01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:50,480
which is up in northern california which

2647
01:37:54,629 --> 01:37:52,480
is about

2648
01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:54,639
10 miles or so from where the patterson

2649
01:37:57,750 --> 01:37:56,639
giblin or yeah the patterson film was

2650
01:37:58,870 --> 01:37:57,760
made

2651
01:38:01,510 --> 01:37:58,880
so it was

2652
01:38:03,990 --> 01:38:01,520
really wild golden no the the green

2653
01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:04,000
triangle yeah we used to go up there

2654
01:38:07,669 --> 01:38:05,760
camping all the time

2655
01:38:10,149 --> 01:38:07,679
and it was something that my dad would

2656
01:38:10,870 --> 01:38:10,159
always tell a story and he my dad i knew

2657
01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:10,880
he

2658
01:38:18,310 --> 01:38:16,400
it was something but we were sleeping in

2659
01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:18,320
the tent one night and i woke up to

2660
01:38:22,870 --> 01:38:20,719
something right outside the tent

2661
01:38:24,310 --> 01:38:22,880
on the other side of the nylon sniffing

2662
01:38:27,669 --> 01:38:24,320
my head

2663
01:38:29,669 --> 01:38:27,679
and big wow and going

2664
01:38:31,750 --> 01:38:29,679
and we were like and it left and my dad

2665
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:31,760
even he said he was like that would you

2666
01:38:36,790 --> 01:38:33,760
know it might have been a bear but a

2667
01:38:39,430 --> 01:38:36,800
very very big bear

2668
01:38:41,030 --> 01:38:39,440
and there was no bare footprints

2669
01:38:42,870 --> 01:38:41,040
anywhere and we were sleeping on pine

2670
01:38:44,229 --> 01:38:42,880
bed so it was all just pine needles and

2671
01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:44,239
stuff like that so i'd normally tear

2672
01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:46,560
that stuff up but no it was no

2673
01:38:50,070 --> 01:38:48,239
footprints nothing

2674
01:38:51,669 --> 01:38:50,080
and then that whole time camping up

2675
01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:51,679
there too whenever we'd go camping you'd

2676
01:38:54,790 --> 01:38:53,679
hear the knocks

2677
01:38:56,550 --> 01:38:54,800
just

2678
01:38:58,070 --> 01:38:56,560
through the woods and you're like oh

2679
01:38:59,510 --> 01:38:58,080
what was that that was really before

2680
01:39:01,109 --> 01:38:59,520
people started

2681
01:39:03,109 --> 01:39:01,119
thinking of what it was and it was just

2682
01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:03,119
like oh it's just stuff in the woods but

2683
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:05,280
it's like no that's not just stuff in

2684
01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:06,320
the woods

2685
01:39:13,030 --> 01:39:08,080
yeah

2686
01:39:15,430 --> 01:39:13,040
time you know

2687
01:39:16,709 --> 01:39:15,440
unfortunately we i love the technology

2688
01:39:18,070 --> 01:39:16,719
we have now we're able to do stuff like

2689
01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:18,080
this you guys are where you live and

2690
01:39:21,270 --> 01:39:19,840
where i live and we're able to talk and

2691
01:39:23,990 --> 01:39:21,280
have this conversation

2692
01:39:26,149 --> 01:39:24,000
but i think we forget the vastness of

2693
01:39:28,149 --> 01:39:26,159
nature you know people talk about like

2694
01:39:29,590 --> 01:39:28,159
if it exists if bigfoot's out there why

2695
01:39:30,629 --> 01:39:29,600
haven't we found the body yet where is

2696
01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:30,639
it at

2697
01:39:35,270 --> 01:39:33,280
it's like if you realize just how vast

2698
01:39:36,310 --> 01:39:35,280
these places are and let's take animals

2699
01:39:38,070 --> 01:39:36,320
we know about i know people use this

2700
01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:38,080
comparison all the time but we'll use it

2701
01:39:42,310 --> 01:39:40,320
again you know black bear being common

2702
01:39:43,750 --> 01:39:42,320
more common than most of their bears

2703
01:39:45,830 --> 01:39:43,760
yeah and where are their bodies how

2704
01:39:47,669 --> 01:39:45,840
often do you come across that or any

2705
01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:47,679
skeleton really there's only a few

2706
01:39:51,350 --> 01:39:48,880
things that you'll come across generally

2707
01:39:53,750 --> 01:39:51,360
the skull sometimes maybe a backbone

2708
01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:53,760
but it's very rare nature kind of has a

2709
01:39:56,950 --> 01:39:55,840
system for all of that so

2710
01:39:57,830 --> 01:39:56,960
i and and if we're talking about

2711
01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:57,840
something that's some sort of an

2712
01:40:02,550 --> 01:39:59,760
advanced um

2713
01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:02,560
species or uh i guess this is sentient

2714
01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:04,159
beings here they could

2715
01:40:07,830 --> 01:40:05,920
hypothesize them bearing their own or

2716
01:40:09,189 --> 01:40:07,840
whatever it might be but for the two of

2717
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:09,199
you what what kind of what are your

2718
01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:11,440
takes on i guess the idea of bigfoot i

2719
01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:13,760
mean gary you just said you you you are

2720
01:40:17,510 --> 01:40:15,199
a believer then you think always

2721
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:17,520
something there yes and a lot of it you

2722
01:40:21,430 --> 01:40:19,360
know that's the thing is there's always

2723
01:40:23,910 --> 01:40:21,440
the theory of the national parks and the

2724
01:40:25,910 --> 01:40:23,920
national forests are there for a reason

2725
01:40:27,510 --> 01:40:25,920
and it's always seems to be where most

2726
01:40:29,510 --> 01:40:27,520
of the hot spots are always seen is in

2727
01:40:31,189 --> 01:40:29,520
that areas and you know that they're

2728
01:40:32,870 --> 01:40:31,199
probably there making sure that they're

2729
01:40:34,870 --> 01:40:32,880
still safe and

2730
01:40:36,629 --> 01:40:34,880
but it's definitely something and

2731
01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:36,639
they're definitely there

2732
01:40:44,310 --> 01:40:42,149
you know i mean

2733
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:44,320
you know i haven't had any just because

2734
01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:45,360
i haven't

2735
01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:47,280
seen it doesn't mean that i don't think

2736
01:40:51,990 --> 01:40:50,000
it's a possibility of it you know uh

2737
01:40:54,629 --> 01:40:52,000
something being out there i know the

2738
01:40:57,990 --> 01:40:54,639
hollow earth theory is something

2739
01:41:00,390 --> 01:40:58,000
around uh bigfoot um but i do know a lot

2740
01:41:03,030 --> 01:41:00,400
of uh specifically you know the

2741
01:41:04,629 --> 01:41:03,040
indigenous uh you know uh native

2742
01:41:06,790 --> 01:41:04,639
americans here

2743
01:41:09,910 --> 01:41:06,800
in uh north america

2744
01:41:12,070 --> 01:41:09,920
or in the united states i should say um

2745
01:41:13,510 --> 01:41:12,080
you know different tribes have different

2746
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:13,520
um

2747
01:41:18,470 --> 01:41:15,280
beliefs but

2748
01:41:21,350 --> 01:41:18,480
a lot of them spoke about a hairy a big

2749
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:21,360
hairy guy and not not not this big hairy

2750
01:41:23,109 --> 01:41:22,239
guy

2751
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:23,119
um

2752
01:41:24,629 --> 01:41:23,920
but

2753
01:41:26,310 --> 01:41:24,639
they

2754
01:41:27,109 --> 01:41:26,320
and also it's like

2755
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:27,119
it's

2756
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:29,760
there's a lot of indigenous women that

2757
01:41:33,910 --> 01:41:32,639
are missing even currently to this day

2758
01:41:35,270 --> 01:41:33,920
um

2759
01:41:36,390 --> 01:41:35,280
at

2760
01:41:38,629 --> 01:41:36,400
a higher

2761
01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:38,639
rate that they are missing um versus

2762
01:41:41,270 --> 01:41:40,320
other ethnicities

2763
01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:41,280
and

2764
01:41:46,390 --> 01:41:43,840
it's you know

2765
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:46,400
what some tribes think is that

2766
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:49,360
sasquatch is taking the ladies

2767
01:41:54,390 --> 01:41:52,080
away from their tribes and then they're

2768
01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:54,400
going and having offspring

2769
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:57,040
with so i mean

2770
01:42:02,070 --> 01:42:00,080
who's who i i don't know i don't i'm

2771
01:42:05,510 --> 01:42:02,080
definitely not gonna say

2772
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:05,520
i don't believe in them because look at

2773
01:42:10,229 --> 01:42:07,440
the the ocean

2774
01:42:13,109 --> 01:42:10,239
you know in in the water how

2775
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:13,119
you know how much of it is still

2776
01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:14,400
to discover

2777
01:42:16,870 --> 01:42:15,360
and

2778
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:16,880
i mean

2779
01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:18,960
the globe hasn't been

2780
01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:21,199
all of the earth hasn't been

2781
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:23,760
discovered yet so it's like who

2782
01:42:26,629 --> 01:42:24,880
knows

2783
01:42:27,910 --> 01:42:26,639
you know

2784
01:42:29,590 --> 01:42:27,920
who knows i do think that's the only

2785
01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:29,600
thing that bothers me about and it can

2786
01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:32,800
be in regards to the ufo topic you know

2787
01:42:36,950 --> 01:42:34,480
uaps whatever term you want to have for

2788
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:36,960
them the phenomenon as a whole

2789
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:38,159
i i

2790
01:42:41,750 --> 01:42:40,000
do love science and i love things being

2791
01:42:44,629 --> 01:42:41,760
scientifically backed or answered the

2792
01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:44,639
only time i i do take issue with it is

2793
01:42:48,629 --> 01:42:46,480
the whole

2794
01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:48,639
when they come in so confidently and say

2795
01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:50,320
you know we know for a fact that this is

2796
01:42:53,189 --> 01:42:52,239
just all you know hullabaloo this is

2797
01:42:55,109 --> 01:42:53,199
just people

2798
01:42:57,270 --> 01:42:55,119
you know it's psychosis it's people

2799
01:42:58,629 --> 01:42:57,280
making this up and it's all these other

2800
01:42:59,750 --> 01:42:58,639
terms they'll throw out there that sound

2801
01:43:02,229 --> 01:42:59,760
nice

2802
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:02,239
but in fact they don't really know we

2803
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:03,360
don't know right it's kind of an

2804
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:06,000
improvable or provable thing and until

2805
01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:07,679
we have more information sure the

2806
01:43:11,030 --> 01:43:09,360
information

2807
01:43:13,109 --> 01:43:11,040
seems to point towards we don't have the

2808
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:13,119
scientific evidence to say here it is

2809
01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:14,400
but at the same time for those that have

2810
01:43:18,550 --> 01:43:16,560
dedicated their life and researched it

2811
01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:18,560
oh my god i'll tell anybody to go listen

2812
01:43:22,870 --> 01:43:21,440
if you have not uh listen to oh my gosh

2813
01:43:25,350 --> 01:43:22,880
i'm drawing a blank in the name of the

2814
01:43:26,870 --> 01:43:25,360
podcast they did a five part series i

2815
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:26,880
listened all thirteen and a half hours

2816
01:43:31,669 --> 01:43:28,880
of it i think it's called ex

2817
01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:31,679
exton or excuse me astonishing legends

2818
01:43:35,109 --> 01:43:32,639
might be i think it's what it's called

2819
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:35,119
astonishing legends podcast if you look

2820
01:43:40,470 --> 01:43:37,679
up their research that they did on

2821
01:43:42,310 --> 01:43:40,480
the uh the footage there um not too far

2822
01:43:44,070 --> 01:43:42,320
from where your dad was working

2823
01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:44,080
i'm having around a blank what is the

2824
01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:46,239
name of that the gimlin footage yeah if

2825
01:43:50,149 --> 01:43:48,400
you look up that and i just kind of

2826
01:43:51,990 --> 01:43:50,159
wrote it off for patterson film thank

2827
01:43:53,270 --> 01:43:52,000
you the patterson film i had kind of for

2828
01:43:54,629 --> 01:43:53,280
whatever reason just tossed it off to

2829
01:43:55,990 --> 01:43:54,639
the side at one point when i was younger

2830
01:43:58,310 --> 01:43:56,000
just being like oh i guess it was on the

2831
01:43:59,990 --> 01:43:58,320
internet probably faked right but i

2832
01:44:01,669 --> 01:44:00,000
listened to that and when they go into

2833
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:01,679
in-depth to understand how film

2834
01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:03,679
photography was shot in that time the

2835
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:05,840
reels that were used how if you were to

2836
01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:08,320
edit or do anything there were clear cut

2837
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:11,840
indicators that would show the editing

2838
01:44:14,950 --> 01:44:12,719
yeah

2839
01:44:17,430 --> 01:44:14,960
i came away from those 13 and a half

2840
01:44:19,350 --> 01:44:17,440
hours of listening to that and

2841
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:19,360
pretty much was sold it no matter what

2842
01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:21,040
that that footage whatever they videoed

2843
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:22,320
was real

2844
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:24,000
and that's we don't give that enough

2845
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:25,920
attention i mean really

2846
01:44:29,669 --> 01:44:28,400
that's kind of unbelievable

2847
01:44:31,270 --> 01:44:29,679
um

2848
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:31,280
yeah i so i would recommend anybody who

2849
01:44:36,229 --> 01:44:33,440
maybe is on the fence with that one go

2850
01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:36,239
go find them astonishing legends did

2851
01:44:40,149 --> 01:44:38,320
13 and a half hours on it and they went

2852
01:44:41,669 --> 01:44:40,159
i mean they covered every aspect of it

2853
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:41,679
and they covered the parts where some of

2854
01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:43,199
the stuff was

2855
01:44:47,189 --> 01:44:44,960
you know people were trying to make some

2856
01:44:48,629 --> 01:44:47,199
money there were some stuff going on but

2857
01:44:49,990 --> 01:44:48,639
all of that was tracked and you know

2858
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:50,000
receipts and different stuff but the

2859
01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:52,239
original footage

2860
01:44:55,270 --> 01:44:54,000
man i still think it's kind of crazy to

2861
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:55,280
think that you could go look that up on

2862
01:44:59,669 --> 01:44:57,119
youtube and be like that might have

2863
01:45:02,229 --> 01:44:59,679
legitimately been the real deal

2864
01:45:03,590 --> 01:45:02,239
which is the thing is we take all that

2865
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:03,600
all that old

2866
01:45:08,310 --> 01:45:06,239
all the old technology for granted

2867
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:08,320
because of what we have today

2868
01:45:11,430 --> 01:45:09,760
you know we can

2869
01:45:12,310 --> 01:45:11,440
we have a super computer in our in our

2870
01:45:15,189 --> 01:45:12,320
pocket

2871
01:45:18,310 --> 01:45:15,199
yeah you know and it used to be

2872
01:45:19,109 --> 01:45:18,320
where justin was the size of a tenth of

2873
01:45:20,629 --> 01:45:19,119
them

2874
01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:20,639
yeah just to have a tenth of that

2875
01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:22,960
technology in a computer

2876
01:45:28,070 --> 01:45:26,080
would be the size of a building

2877
01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:28,080
you know and

2878
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:30,400
of course you know who knows why that we

2879
01:45:34,709 --> 01:45:32,800
were able to advance that fast but

2880
01:45:37,350 --> 01:45:34,719
that's always another debate for another

2881
01:45:39,030 --> 01:45:37,360
story at a time but al gore said he

2882
01:45:44,870 --> 01:45:39,040
invented the internet that's right al

2883
01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:46,870
i love it by the way brown. says well if

2884
01:45:51,990 --> 01:45:49,360
you are ever on the east coast come to

2885
01:45:53,910 --> 01:45:52,000
jersey we have the freaky eerie

2886
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:53,920
crazy pine barrens

2887
01:45:58,870 --> 01:45:55,920
yikes it is scary we can look for the

2888
01:46:00,790 --> 01:45:58,880
jersey devil it it and it's home right

2889
01:46:02,709 --> 01:46:00,800
in my backyard

2890
01:46:04,790 --> 01:46:02,719
i've um

2891
01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:04,800
back in the day when i

2892
01:46:10,229 --> 01:46:06,960
in my early 20s when i

2893
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:10,239
still drank and went to the bars

2894
01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:12,960
i was with my data at the time and one

2895
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:16,000
of his friends was uh older than him but

2896
01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:19,199
he was a professor at the u of m u of m

2897
01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:21,600
university in minnesota minnesota and so

2898
01:46:26,470 --> 01:46:22,880
okay

2899
01:46:28,149 --> 01:46:26,480
the the history uh you know like the

2900
01:46:30,470 --> 01:46:28,159
monster quest

2901
01:46:33,030 --> 01:46:30,480
you know that was out maybe 10 years ago

2902
01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:33,040
from the history channel there's one on

2903
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:36,080
the jersey devil and he is a professor

2904
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:39,199
in that document in not that documentary

2905
01:46:44,550 --> 01:46:42,480
but that episode he's in it so

2906
01:46:47,750 --> 01:46:44,560
like i thought it was cool that i was

2907
01:46:49,669 --> 01:46:47,760
like oh you know it's like get to have

2908
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:49,679
drinks with this guy that was on the

2909
01:46:54,790 --> 01:46:50,800
freaking

2910
01:46:57,430 --> 01:46:54,800
mothman episode i was like cool yeah

2911
01:46:59,990 --> 01:46:57,440
like i always loved stuff like that

2912
01:47:02,310 --> 01:47:00,000
by the way uh says you can always uh you

2913
01:47:04,709 --> 01:47:02,320
have a place to stay with us if

2914
01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:04,719
and if we fail we go to the atlantic

2915
01:47:08,870 --> 01:47:06,840
city casinos and the

2916
01:47:11,590 --> 01:47:08,880
shore there you go

2917
01:47:13,669 --> 01:47:11,600
tammy says she said i can recall someone

2918
01:47:15,430 --> 01:47:13,679
back then saying that there was no

2919
01:47:16,629 --> 01:47:15,440
reason for anyone to have a computer in

2920
01:47:17,990 --> 01:47:16,639
their home

2921
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:18,000
now i mean like she's saying look at it

2922
01:47:20,830 --> 01:47:19,920
now essentially like

2923
01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:20,840
it's pretty

2924
01:47:26,870 --> 01:47:23,920
unbelievable yeah um but have you guys

2925
01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:26,880
in your i guess adventures in escapades

2926
01:47:31,109 --> 01:47:29,600
have you ever had any sort of

2927
01:47:32,790 --> 01:47:31,119
something while camping that you're like

2928
01:47:34,950 --> 01:47:32,800
hmm just uncertain you know maybe

2929
01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:34,960
something that took place

2930
01:47:40,149 --> 01:47:38,880
not camping but here in colorado and

2931
01:47:41,350 --> 01:47:40,159
we

2932
01:47:43,270 --> 01:47:41,360
writing

2933
01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:43,280
you know stepped outside our doors and

2934
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:45,119
we saw weird stuff

2935
01:47:46,790 --> 01:47:46,000
really

2936
01:47:50,790 --> 01:47:46,800
yeah

2937
01:47:53,350 --> 01:47:50,800
nobody ever talks about it and you're

2938
01:47:55,430 --> 01:47:53,360
better at describing it than i am for

2939
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:55,440
sure yeah no one ever talks about this

2940
01:47:59,510 --> 01:47:57,280
but it was actually like dave talked

2941
01:48:00,629 --> 01:47:59,520
about it three years ago when it was on

2942
01:48:02,790 --> 01:48:00,639
there

2943
01:48:05,590 --> 01:48:02,800
and when it was when it was big news but

2944
01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:05,600
it was it was the beginning of or not i

2945
01:48:09,189 --> 01:48:06,800
guess three years ago it was two years

2946
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:09,199
ago this year before the pandemic

2947
01:48:12,550 --> 01:48:11,280
january 2020

2948
01:48:14,709 --> 01:48:12,560
and

2949
01:48:16,310 --> 01:48:14,719
they started having these weird

2950
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:16,320
sightings out in eastern colorado

2951
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:17,440
because we're on the eastern side of

2952
01:48:21,590 --> 01:48:19,840
this of the rocky mountains okay in the

2953
01:48:23,590 --> 01:48:21,600
northern part

2954
01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:23,600
and

2955
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:26,080
about 20 miles away from where we're

2956
01:48:30,229 --> 01:48:27,920
sitting right now

2957
01:48:32,950 --> 01:48:30,239
is like a 20 megaton

2958
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:32,960
nuclear warhead

2959
01:48:37,270 --> 01:48:35,280
we are i drive by them all day long

2960
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:37,280
there's all the missile silos i have a

2961
01:48:41,030 --> 01:48:39,920
friend of mine whose dad used to be in

2962
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:41,040
uh the

2963
01:48:45,910 --> 01:48:43,600
the norad and so

2964
01:48:47,430 --> 01:48:45,920
he used to he was in charge of the old

2965
01:48:48,790 --> 01:48:47,440
titan missiles and stuff like that back

2966
01:48:51,030 --> 01:48:48,800
in those days

2967
01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:51,040
and he loves to go out and he documents

2968
01:48:54,149 --> 01:48:52,560
where each one of them are

2969
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:54,159
and so we've gone out to the middle

2970
01:48:56,950 --> 01:48:55,920
scott yeah we've gone out to the middle

2971
01:48:58,790 --> 01:48:56,960
of the

2972
01:49:00,229 --> 01:48:58,800
pawnee grasslands and went and he can

2973
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:00,239
show you which ones are the control

2974
01:49:04,550 --> 01:49:02,719
houses and those are wild

2975
01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:04,560
they're just a house in the middle of

2976
01:49:09,669 --> 01:49:07,040
the prairie yeah that has a

2977
01:49:11,350 --> 01:49:09,679
helicopter pad next to it and a big old

2978
01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:11,360
fence and all these barricades and it

2979
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:13,440
just looks like a house but then

2980
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:15,040
two stories underground is what they

2981
01:49:19,750 --> 01:49:17,040
call the pill which is the control box

2982
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:19,760
where they drop the bombs or where they

2983
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:21,119
launch the missiles

2984
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:22,480
and each one of the control house

2985
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:24,960
controls seven tower or seven silos all

2986
01:49:28,070 --> 01:49:26,159
around it

2987
01:49:30,310 --> 01:49:28,080
and so you'll be driving along and

2988
01:49:31,830 --> 01:49:30,320
you'll see the military planes because

2989
01:49:33,430 --> 01:49:31,840
they all come out of warren's air force

2990
01:49:35,830 --> 01:49:33,440
base out of cheyenne

2991
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:35,840
yeah wyoming and so they'll fly over and

2992
01:49:41,109 --> 01:49:38,719
you'll see these blackhawks just flying

2993
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:41,119
20 yards above the ground just

2994
01:49:43,750 --> 01:49:42,400
heading out to the middle of control

2995
01:49:45,830 --> 01:49:43,760
houses but

2996
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:45,840
what it started was

2997
01:49:50,470 --> 01:49:47,760
all these people started hurt hearing

2998
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:53,430
of really large drones

2999
01:49:57,270 --> 01:49:54,560
and

3000
01:49:59,510 --> 01:49:57,280
it wasn't just one or two it was like 15

3001
01:50:00,950 --> 01:49:59,520
of them all kind of just flying around

3002
01:50:02,550 --> 01:50:00,960
in a grid

3003
01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:02,560
and they just kind of tracked back and

3004
01:50:07,109 --> 01:50:05,440
forth like this and like that and they'd

3005
01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:07,119
go for a while and then come back and

3006
01:50:12,390 --> 01:50:09,520
then come back but there'd be 10 or 15

3007
01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:12,400
of them and they were all about six and

3008
01:50:17,030 --> 01:50:14,960
a half feet in length oh wow these are

3009
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:17,040
big these aren't your baby drones

3010
01:50:23,669 --> 01:50:20,080
they're not and they flew

3011
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:23,679
for up to six hours at a time

3012
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:25,119
which even

3013
01:50:30,550 --> 01:50:28,000
even any drone out there right now can

3014
01:50:32,629 --> 01:50:30,560
only fly for 15-20 minutes

3015
01:50:34,149 --> 01:50:32,639
you know really small these are

3016
01:50:35,350 --> 01:50:34,159
the batteries in these things had to be

3017
01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:35,360
huge

3018
01:50:39,910 --> 01:50:37,119
but they would not stop

3019
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:39,920
and they started slowly creeping across

3020
01:50:43,510 --> 01:50:41,760
eastern colorado

3021
01:50:46,629 --> 01:50:43,520
until all of a sudden where we lived

3022
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:46,639
which is kind of like the border of

3023
01:50:50,070 --> 01:50:48,800
civilization before the prairie is

3024
01:50:51,430 --> 01:50:50,080
basically

3025
01:50:54,310 --> 01:50:51,440
yeah and

3026
01:50:55,910 --> 01:50:54,320
we saw him right off of our apartment

3027
01:50:58,149 --> 01:50:55,920
patio all of a sudden one night i got

3028
01:50:59,990 --> 01:50:58,159
home and i said oh my god they're [\h__\h]

3029
01:51:02,470 --> 01:51:00,000
they're out there you're good

3030
01:51:04,709 --> 01:51:02,480
okay joe all day long okay good i'm just

3031
01:51:07,669 --> 01:51:04,719
not shocked

3032
01:51:11,430 --> 01:51:10,310
sorry i swear a lot i'm trying not to on

3033
01:51:14,229 --> 01:51:11,440
youtube

3034
01:51:16,229 --> 01:51:14,239
and uh but we look over and

3035
01:51:18,629 --> 01:51:16,239
i'm like they're freaking here

3036
01:51:20,629 --> 01:51:18,639
i look out and oh my god we got footage

3037
01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:20,639
of them all over on my phones we

3038
01:51:24,229 --> 01:51:22,159
videotaped them i think it's on my

3039
01:51:25,589 --> 01:51:24,239
instagram and stuff too from

3040
01:51:28,390 --> 01:51:25,599
a year ago but

3041
01:51:29,430 --> 01:51:28,400
they just sat there and tracked back and

3042
01:51:34,470 --> 01:51:29,440
forth

3043
01:51:36,229 --> 01:51:34,480
and across and these were not airplanes

3044
01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:36,239
and you could hear them they would show

3045
01:51:42,310 --> 01:51:38,960
up night after night for like a week so

3046
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:42,320
it wasn't just randomly you see a group

3047
01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:45,040
it would be they're back again tonight

3048
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:47,280
and they would stay it wasn't like they

3049
01:51:51,669 --> 01:51:49,679
were landing and taking off another one

3050
01:51:54,229 --> 01:51:51,679
these were just constantly and you could

3051
01:51:56,310 --> 01:51:54,239
track one for about an hour an hour and

3052
01:51:58,229 --> 01:51:56,320
a half until it would finally just

3053
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:58,239
dance its way across the horizon and

3054
01:52:02,149 --> 01:51:59,760
often in nowhere

3055
01:52:04,229 --> 01:52:02,159
and at one point they were looking for

3056
01:52:05,589 --> 01:52:04,239
like a control vehicle is what they

3057
01:52:07,109 --> 01:52:05,599
thought they spotted out in the middle

3058
01:52:09,589 --> 01:52:07,119
of the woods we're in the middle of the

3059
01:52:11,750 --> 01:52:09,599
prairie but no one found that

3060
01:52:14,149 --> 01:52:11,760
the governor even started looking into

3061
01:52:15,990 --> 01:52:14,159
it and the faa because they didn't know

3062
01:52:17,109 --> 01:52:16,000
who was flying these things and nobody

3063
01:52:22,709 --> 01:52:17,119
had

3064
01:52:25,189 --> 01:52:22,719
there's people that think that they were

3065
01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:25,199
they were a utility company is what they

3066
01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:27,280
thought at one point maybe mapping out

3067
01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:30,880
like underground gas lines we also have

3068
01:52:36,310 --> 01:52:33,360
a lot of oil fracking out here so they

3069
01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:36,320
think maybe it was tracking that

3070
01:52:40,709 --> 01:52:37,840
but the biggest thing is is that they

3071
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:40,719
all started over by where the silos were

3072
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:42,400
yeah and they all started coming that

3073
01:52:46,229 --> 01:52:43,360
way

3074
01:52:48,229 --> 01:52:46,239
and nobody knows whose technology is and

3075
01:52:49,910 --> 01:52:48,239
nobody and everybody that's talked about

3076
01:52:51,910 --> 01:52:49,920
it all the freaking

3077
01:52:54,390 --> 01:52:51,920
experts and the drone experts that were

3078
01:52:56,550 --> 01:52:54,400
in the area were all saying that

3079
01:52:59,189 --> 01:52:56,560
there is nothing on the market that can

3080
01:53:00,950 --> 01:52:59,199
fly as long as these are flying

3081
01:53:02,390 --> 01:53:00,960
you know what that sounds like okay we

3082
01:53:03,750 --> 01:53:02,400
have two routes tammy's asking the

3083
01:53:05,910 --> 01:53:03,760
obvious question do we think those were

3084
01:53:07,669 --> 01:53:05,920
government sure we i don't know did

3085
01:53:09,430 --> 01:53:07,679
anybody own up to that did he break the

3086
01:53:11,430 --> 01:53:09,440
government say it's ours yeah the

3087
01:53:15,669 --> 01:53:11,440
government was saying no we don't know

3088
01:53:17,350 --> 01:53:15,679
what these are which is oh sure okay

3089
01:53:18,950 --> 01:53:17,360
yeah yeah but

3090
01:53:20,229 --> 01:53:18,960
that's the thing is that and then all of

3091
01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:20,239
a sudden

3092
01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:22,400
poof it just vanished like a fart in the

3093
01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:25,440
wind and no one talked about it ever

3094
01:53:29,430 --> 01:53:27,199
again and that's the thing yeah it was

3095
01:53:32,070 --> 01:53:29,440
on colorado news you know the governor

3096
01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:32,080
making statements about it and oh and

3097
01:53:35,669 --> 01:53:34,400
then people just forgot about it i'll

3098
01:53:37,270 --> 01:53:35,679
have to look up

3099
01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:37,280
yeah see we could almost cover that on

3100
01:53:40,709 --> 01:53:39,119
the sor one time over the after hours

3101
01:53:41,990 --> 01:53:40,719
because that's that's what i was

3102
01:53:44,550 --> 01:53:42,000
thinking too

3103
01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:44,560
uh because there is footage like i s i

3104
01:53:46,790 --> 01:53:45,840
have

3105
01:53:48,390 --> 01:53:46,800
it's

3106
01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:48,400
very bad

3107
01:53:54,629 --> 01:53:51,920
filming of it but you can still see

3108
01:53:56,229 --> 01:53:54,639
you know you can still see like

3109
01:53:58,870 --> 01:53:56,239
lights and

3110
01:54:01,109 --> 01:53:58,880
you know it's just

3111
01:54:02,310 --> 01:54:01,119
you know what i always joke you guys

3112
01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:02,320
remember the cartoon you ever seen the

3113
01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:05,040
cartoon um chicken little

3114
01:54:08,870 --> 01:54:06,800
okay you remember the technology right

3115
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:08,880
how the sky is fake the whole sky and

3116
01:54:11,589 --> 01:54:10,480
it's like it just the reflect oh sorry

3117
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:11,599
not the whole sky the bottom of the

3118
01:54:14,310 --> 01:54:13,280
craft and it just reflects whatever's

3119
01:54:15,910 --> 01:54:14,320
above it

3120
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:15,920
i mean some of the stuff's leaked out

3121
01:54:18,870 --> 01:54:17,520
that the military has some of that i

3122
01:54:20,550 --> 01:54:18,880
mean and they've shown those blanket

3123
01:54:21,910 --> 01:54:20,560
covers they can put on people but i've

3124
01:54:23,109 --> 01:54:21,920
always joked like if there are things

3125
01:54:24,310 --> 01:54:23,119
that they're flying around instead of

3126
01:54:26,390 --> 01:54:24,320
being seen

3127
01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:26,400
wouldn't you just do that almost like

3128
01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:27,920
almost got the technology but they gave

3129
01:54:31,510 --> 01:54:29,119
us too much credit like okay we're just

3130
01:54:33,669 --> 01:54:31,520
gonna send down drones but they messed

3131
01:54:35,270 --> 01:54:33,679
up or like let them last for six seven

3132
01:54:36,550 --> 01:54:35,280
hours so they're like crap they're still

3133
01:54:37,430 --> 01:54:36,560
too good

3134
01:54:39,669 --> 01:54:37,440
like

3135
01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:39,679
what's the outside blender the glitch in

3136
01:54:42,629 --> 01:54:41,840
the matrix there's just something that's

3137
01:54:44,709 --> 01:54:42,639
weird

3138
01:54:47,189 --> 01:54:44,719
well the other day i was i was down in

3139
01:54:49,270 --> 01:54:47,199
denver and i was driving back up and i

3140
01:54:51,830 --> 01:54:49,280
have this on my phone too

3141
01:54:53,510 --> 01:54:51,840
and it at first i thought it was

3142
01:54:57,589 --> 01:54:53,520
helicopters

3143
01:55:00,229 --> 01:54:57,599
but i realize no that's way too big to

3144
01:55:01,430 --> 01:55:00,239
be a helicopter that looks like a giant

3145
01:55:03,830 --> 01:55:01,440
plane

3146
01:55:04,629 --> 01:55:03,840
and it was completely stationary in the

3147
01:55:06,709 --> 01:55:04,639
air

3148
01:55:08,229 --> 01:55:06,719
just hovering there

3149
01:55:09,510 --> 01:55:08,239
lights were blinking

3150
01:55:11,750 --> 01:55:09,520
no movement

3151
01:55:13,030 --> 01:55:11,760
and i'm driving up the road going i was

3152
01:55:14,470 --> 01:55:13,040
driving up the road i think i was

3153
01:55:16,229 --> 01:55:14,480
listening to either dave or i was

3154
01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:16,239
listening to art bell on my freaking

3155
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:18,480
spotify and one of the two and i'm

3156
01:55:23,350 --> 01:55:20,480
looking over and i'm like

3157
01:55:25,830 --> 01:55:23,360
that plane is not moving and it's right

3158
01:55:27,750 --> 01:55:25,840
next to down the street from dia

3159
01:55:29,669 --> 01:55:27,760
and you know you'll see him stack up

3160
01:55:31,589 --> 01:55:29,679
waiting for the landing because slowing

3161
01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:31,599
down or whatever and they can fly slow

3162
01:55:34,870 --> 01:55:32,560
and but

3163
01:55:37,270 --> 01:55:34,880
but you can tell they're moving

3164
01:55:39,589 --> 01:55:37,280
and these ones weren't moving they were

3165
01:55:41,669 --> 01:55:39,599
completely stationary and i was like i

3166
01:55:43,510 --> 01:55:41,679
saw one and i'm like oh that's weird and

3167
01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:43,520
i started coming up over the hill and

3168
01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:45,040
there's another one

3169
01:55:49,669 --> 01:55:46,960
oh that's weird

3170
01:55:52,470 --> 01:55:49,679
and i caught four of them in a row just

3171
01:55:54,550 --> 01:55:52,480
completely stationary the entire time i

3172
01:55:57,109 --> 01:55:54,560
filmed them while i was passing and i

3173
01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:57,119
drove a quarter of a mile from them and

3174
01:56:15,109 --> 01:55:57,840
i

3175
01:56:16,629 --> 01:56:15,119
able to start to comment to uh watch us

3176
01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:16,639
and stuff so

3177
01:56:18,709 --> 01:56:18,000
and that's how they're starting to [\h__\h]

3178
01:56:21,030 --> 01:56:18,719
to

3179
01:56:22,790 --> 01:56:21,040
you know well we can start mimicking our

3180
01:56:24,550 --> 01:56:22,800
crafts to look like their crafts and now

3181
01:56:26,149 --> 01:56:24,560
we can start doing stuff

3182
01:56:27,589 --> 01:56:26,159
but it did it looked like helicopters

3183
01:56:29,589 --> 01:56:27,599
but that didn't have the helicopter

3184
01:56:30,629 --> 01:56:29,599
rotors it wasn't making helicopter

3185
01:56:33,350 --> 01:56:30,639
sounds

3186
01:56:36,070 --> 01:56:33,360
and it wasn't it but they were stayed

3187
01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:36,080
just completely dead stop in the air

3188
01:56:39,510 --> 01:56:38,320
and see the people would always too if

3189
01:56:41,430 --> 01:56:39,520
we've seen that if we've seen the

3190
01:56:43,109 --> 01:56:41,440
footage of that people would always say

3191
01:56:44,870 --> 01:56:43,119
well it's clearly edited because a

3192
01:56:47,109 --> 01:56:44,880
helicopter can't do that right so we'd

3193
01:56:49,350 --> 01:56:47,119
be like it's cgi

3194
01:56:51,430 --> 01:56:49,360
what if you know and that's the we are

3195
01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:51,440
in a weird conundrum right now with that

3196
01:56:54,390 --> 01:56:52,560
because

3197
01:56:55,990 --> 01:56:54,400
even if somebody videoed the actual

3198
01:56:57,669 --> 01:56:56,000
thing

3199
01:56:58,950 --> 01:56:57,679
you're gonna it's it's just people are

3200
01:57:00,390 --> 01:56:58,960
gonna believe it or not it doesn't

3201
01:57:02,070 --> 01:57:00,400
matter which video it almost doesn't

3202
01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:02,080
matter

3203
01:57:05,990 --> 01:57:04,480
unless the mainstream media

3204
01:57:07,830 --> 01:57:06,000
puts it out

3205
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:07,840
and you know the day that that happens i

3206
01:57:10,709 --> 01:57:09,280
have mixed feelings on it too because i

3207
01:57:12,629 --> 01:57:10,719
still think

3208
01:57:14,550 --> 01:57:12,639
i'm concerned with the narrative that

3209
01:57:17,189 --> 01:57:14,560
it'll be put out under right

3210
01:57:19,430 --> 01:57:17,199
and that is like my concern with the

3211
01:57:21,669 --> 01:57:19,440
release process of whatever might come

3212
01:57:23,510 --> 01:57:21,679
come to fruition for us so

3213
01:57:25,430 --> 01:57:23,520
um jenny white bear thank you for being

3214
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:25,440
here tonight i know oh oh man shoot it's

3215
01:57:29,270 --> 01:57:27,520
almost a minute already as you uh will

3216
01:57:31,189 --> 01:57:29,280
be wrenching hard over there at sor

3217
01:57:34,229 --> 01:57:31,199
because i believe he has uh our keith

3218
01:57:37,669 --> 01:57:34,239
andrews tonight right yeah i think so

3219
01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:37,679
best chops in the galaxy oh yeah he does

3220
01:57:41,270 --> 01:57:39,199
not mutton chops

3221
01:57:42,550 --> 01:57:41,280
jobs uh so i guess speaking of that i

3222
01:57:44,950 --> 01:57:42,560
guess i probably should wrap up the next

3223
01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:44,960
one over dave's time so guys thank you

3224
01:57:47,910 --> 01:57:46,480
so much for being here today thank you

3225
01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:47,920
for sharing your experiences and your

3226
01:57:50,790 --> 01:57:49,840
stories and uh you're more than welcome

3227
01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:50,800
if you guys ever want to come back and

3228
01:57:54,629 --> 01:57:52,719
share something or hang out and i'll

3229
01:57:56,709 --> 01:57:54,639
send you guys the links too obviously

3230
01:57:58,070 --> 01:57:56,719
for that sorry party excuse me well

3231
01:57:59,750 --> 01:57:58,080
there's a small party as well in vegas

3232
01:58:00,629 --> 01:57:59,760
but as well as the one that ben and joe

3233
01:58:02,149 --> 01:58:00,639
had planned for the end of the year

3234
01:58:03,430 --> 01:58:02,159
because that'll be a good time just

3235
01:58:05,350 --> 01:58:03,440
camping out and

3236
01:58:06,390 --> 01:58:05,360
uh under the stars and i'm excited about

3237
01:58:07,910 --> 01:58:06,400
that so

3238
01:58:10,229 --> 01:58:07,920
thank you definitely i got a bunch more

3239
01:58:12,629 --> 01:58:10,239
stories so we can always heck back and

3240
01:58:14,629 --> 01:58:12,639
tell more so we want to do a round table

3241
01:58:15,910 --> 01:58:14,639
pretty soon here i want to say something

3242
01:58:17,189 --> 01:58:15,920
to do like

3243
01:58:18,229 --> 01:58:17,199
i'll bring in some topics just be like

3244
01:58:20,709 --> 01:58:18,239
what do you guys think about this and

3245
01:58:21,990 --> 01:58:20,719
spitball and you know share some ideas

3246
01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:22,000
about it and get

3247
01:58:25,270 --> 01:58:23,760
the collective consciousness rolling i

3248
01:58:26,470 --> 01:58:25,280
guess right keep spreading those

3249
01:58:28,790 --> 01:58:26,480
positive vibes and waves out to

3250
01:58:31,189 --> 01:58:28,800
everybody so really quick as we are

3251
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:31,199
wrapping up here uh is there anywhere

3252
01:58:35,109 --> 01:58:32,880
you guys would like to give a shout out

3253
01:58:36,950 --> 01:58:35,119
to anybody or whether people can follow

3254
01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:36,960
you anything of that nature that you

3255
01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:39,360
would like to put out there and if not

3256
01:58:43,990 --> 01:58:40,480
um

3257
01:58:47,350 --> 01:58:44,000
well i'm you know we're on the sor

3258
01:58:50,470 --> 01:58:47,360
uh weekend yeah um but

3259
01:58:52,390 --> 01:58:50,480
i am gonna be starting a new

3260
01:58:54,070 --> 01:58:52,400
youtube channel

3261
01:58:55,750 --> 01:58:54,080
um and so

3262
01:58:58,790 --> 01:58:55,760
that is to

3263
01:59:01,910 --> 01:58:58,800
come out soon but um

3264
01:59:03,589 --> 01:59:01,920
then lucy then lizzie borden um

3265
01:59:06,070 --> 01:59:03,599
instagram

3266
01:59:07,910 --> 01:59:06,080
uh tick tock and facebook

3267
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:07,920
so it's all the same

3268
01:59:12,470 --> 01:59:10,000
heck yeah

3269
01:59:15,350 --> 01:59:12,480
uh simon well says brie and gary i love

3270
01:59:17,430 --> 01:59:15,360
you guys you are awesome twin willy damn

3271
01:59:19,750 --> 01:59:17,440
you better twin love you all in the chat

3272
01:59:21,910 --> 01:59:19,760
you kick ass so we thank you all so very

3273
01:59:23,990 --> 01:59:21,920
much for being here tonight and as i

3274
01:59:25,589 --> 01:59:24,000
always say when we're wrapping up uh

3275
01:59:28,229 --> 01:59:25,599
obviously guys go over and support mr

3276
01:59:30,550 --> 01:59:28,239
dave scott over there sorr subscribe

3277
01:59:31,750 --> 01:59:30,560
we're so freaking close to 15 000 guys i

3278
01:59:32,870 --> 01:59:31,760
know that's a goal we had to get them

3279
01:59:34,790 --> 01:59:32,880
over there by the end of the month yeah

3280
01:59:37,510 --> 01:59:34,800
we're actually gonna do it so it's gonna

3281
01:59:39,669 --> 01:59:37,520
be a good time and uh

3282
01:59:42,149 --> 01:59:39,679
wrapping up here for tonight we'll ask

3283
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:42,159
you all to stay curious and keep it

3284
02:00:20,240 --> 01:59:43,810
weird